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Gregg Bolinger
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So who is using it and what do you think? I enjoyed using MyEclipse for Struts and plain JSP/Servlets before JSF came along. Has it improved? What do you like and what do you not like about MyEclipse for JSF development?
 
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I use it for work.

My impression is very good. It has some very nice features but not that much in the way of JSF development assistance.

Good
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1. Provides a 1 click option for creating a JSF project which adds appropriate entries to web.xml, faces-config.xml and populates the web app with the approproate libraries.
2. Good support for lots of different application servers. Can deploy and undeploy your app to multiple servers.
3. Excellent web app debug facilities.
4. Good XML validator
5. Very good auto-complete for XML, taglibs, JSP code and Java code

Bad
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1. A few bugs with the plugin - console output sometimes dissapears, code highlighting screws up now and then - a restart of Eclipse fixes this.
2. Multiple clicks are required to redeploy your app - stop server, redeploy, start server - one button could do that.
3. Its not free
4. Not much help in actual coding - still need to hand crank most things
5. Finds errors where there are non
6. Upcoming version recommends using Tiger but only runs on Eclipse 3.0.x which does not support Tiger
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Rajasekar Kayamboo
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I have been using MyEclipse for nearly a year. It defnitely reduces pain of a JSP developer. The best thing I like about it is the JSP debugging. It saved me from hell in my last project where I was involved in writing tons of pages using JSP.

Though it costs ~$30, it is worth when I compare to the pain of having scriplets and out.println.

Even the stuts designer (which I have not extensively used) is also good which gives you a pictorial view of the struts-config.

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Sekar
 
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Originally posted by Rick Beaver:
It has some very nice features but not that much in the way of JSF development assistance.


So what kind of additional JSF realted (strictly) featues would you like to have in a tool which can ease your development or other related efforts?

In IBM WSAD, the only serious functionality I miss is a good jsf specific logging other than that I really can't think of any.
[though I am using using 5.1.2 version which is a JSF complaint version, I feel pretty comfortable in working 5.1.1 (non jsf specific) too as most of the coding I do is manual and I really don't see it's consuming more time]
 
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I'd like to see some WYSIWYG but without the backing bean code generation. I'd like to be able to design my forms visually. But I still would want to hand code all my backing beans accordingly.
 
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
I'd like to see some WYSIWYG but without the backing bean code generation. I'd like to be able to design my forms visually. But I still would want to hand code all my backing beans accordingly.


That should be there I agree. WSAD has it.
 
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I tried out MyEclipse 4.0 milestone release. I tried that one because it had the visual navigation builder and some added little goodies like UML. I am not that impressed. It was more work getting that going than just hand coding everything in IDEA. And although this could be because I was using an early release of a new version, some things didn't work. The preview didn't work and I made a single form with a commandButton whos action was to return success and go to a 2nd page. Nothing was working. Hand coded the identical app in IDEA, worked like a champ.

Yeah, it's only $29 a year, but I think I'll take my wife to the movies instead.
 
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I tried that one because it had the visual navigation builder and some added little goodies like UML.


I just checked the MyEclipse 4.0, the visual navigation builder indeed looked something interesting
The support for my-faces and sun RI was also a goodie. In WSAD, IBM uses it's own implementation.

Is MyEclipse faster than JSC ?
 
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Originally posted by Varun Khanna:


I just checked the MyEclipse 4.0, the visual navigation builder indeed looked something interesting
The support for my-faces and sun RI was also a goodie. In WSAD, IBM uses it's own implementation.

Is MyEclipse faster than JSC ?


Of course, it runs in Eclipse. And the support for MyFaces excited me as well. But like I said, it really didn't save me any time I felt. The only thing I need is something to generate the JSP for me. I will do the backing bean and I can get faces console to do the faces-config if I want.

I just want to drag components on a form and have the JSP created. I get tired of editing JSP/HTML pages.
 
Don't get me started about those stupid light bulbs.
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