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Prem Khan
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I have been playing with Oracle J Developer and am thinking of scraping exedel products for oracle.
 
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Good for you.
 
Paul Smiley
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I've been looking at both also. Just starting a JSF project with MyFaces. Can JDeveloper handle navigation and state saving? I'm having nothing but problems in MyEclipse. Exadel is not mature on the 3.1 Eclipse path either. Does JDeveloper have visual editing? I don't need it, just a time saver. Real developers use vi
 
Sergey Smirnov
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Real developers use vi

Do real employers pay real money to such real developments?

...and yes, the JDeveloper has JSP WYSIWYG designer. The best in the town for now.
What do you miss in Exadel for Eclipse 3.1 to suggest it is mature enough?

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[ July 22, 2005: Message edited by: Sergey Smirnov ]
 
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I'd just like to make everyone aware that you should be very careful when choosing an IDE for JSF development. You could lock youself into a single implementation. For example, there is currently no way to getting MyFaces to work in the visual editor with Java Studio Creator. You can still do it at code level using the taglibs but then you might as well not use JSC if not for it's visual editing of pages.

Similar problems exist for JDevelopor and the like. So just be very careful. That is why I prefer to develop with IDE's/Editors that aren't so proprietary in nature.
 
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Well, it doesn't support JBoss 4.0x for one. This has been out for some time. It only lets you see 3.2.3. I've just had numerous runtime errors show up. Tried to import a JSF project - it tells me that the web.xml is wrong (it isn't - but even if it were, I would expect a decent IDE add-on to suggest changes, give more details or offer to fix the file for you (WSAD 5.1.2 does)). Anyway, suffice it to say that I won't be shelling out $100 for it in the near future.





>>...and yes, the JDeveloper has JSP WYSIWYG designer. The best in the town >>for now.
>>What do you miss in Exadel for Eclipse 3.1 to suggest it is mature enough?

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Paul Smiley
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
I'd just like to make everyone aware that you should be very careful when choosing an IDE for JSF development. You could lock youself into a single implementation. For example, there is currently no way to getting MyFaces to work in the visual editor with Java Studio Creator. You can still do it at code level using the taglibs but then you might as well not use JSC if not for it's visual editing of pages.

Similar problems exist for JDevelopor and the like. So just be very careful. That is why I prefer to develop with IDE's/Editors that aren't so proprietary in nature.



Yep, I used WSAD and you had to be careful to keep the IBM proprietary stuff out. JDeveloper seem to have the same thing going for it.
 
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Please consider M7's NitroX JSF IDE
Why? Just google: review NitroX Java
NitroX always scores best for JSP, Struts and now JSF

Quantifiably better - we woudl be happy to show you. See the demos at the web site or scheule a live webex demonstration for your team with one of our engineers. No BS - just the facts that we can prove in a live demo.

You can find cheaper tools, but not a better one. If you are a professional developer (where time is money) you will easily come out ahead.

Some blogs and reviews:
http://dev2dev.bea.com/blog/gnyberg/archive/2005/04/choosing_a_jsps_1.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/02/04/06TCjtools_1.html

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