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Carl Trusiak
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This Week we are giving away four copies of the book "SOAP Programming with Java".
And the best part... The Author William Brogden is online to answer your questions!
Everyone give Bill a warm JavaRanch welcome!
Thanks to the people at Sybex for the books!
For details, check out JavaRanch Book Promotions
 
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Hi Bill,
I used your cram book a lot to prepare my SJCP 2 years ago and I found it excellent! Nice to see you around and best luck with your new book.
Quite new to SOAP, I will certainly have a few questions to ask you in the next few days. Hope to hear from you then
Thanks for contributing to the future of Java!
 
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Welcome Bill,
I think your are already a rancher long time ago right? hehehe..
Really nice looking cover! Good luck with your book!
 
Ajith Kallambella
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Welcome Bill!
 
William Brogden
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Thanks Guys! Yeah my rancher ID is a pretty low number - what a great institution!
Bill
 
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Hi Bill,
Welcome to this forum!
Can you explain what topics are covered in your book.
Ritu
 
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There is a list of the book chapters and contents at the support site for the book:
http://www.lanw.com/books/javasoap
The technical level is introductory, but it assumes you are familiar with XML and Java already.
Bill
 
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Bill,
How did you decide to write your first computer book, and how did you go about getting it published?
 
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I never expected to be writing computer books. What happened was I got brought in as technical editor on one of the early Java books. Next was a job co-authoring a major revision of one of the earliest Java books. Then publishers were looking for book proposals and things just went on from there......
Bill
 
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Hi everyone,
I'm just learning the whole SOAP concept and am unable ask a sophisticated question, so I'm not even going to try.
I admit my only reason for this reply is for the chance at the free book, it sounds interesting!
I am new to JavaRanch. Great site, keep up the good work.
JEB
 
Surendra Kashyap
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Welcome Bill!
I used your cram book a lot to prepare my SJCP 2 years ago too.
Do you talk about the usage of SOAP in .Net and WebServices?
I would love to read the book on SOAP.
Thanks!
 
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I hope I would win one! I'm trying to catch up pretty hard with the technology (J2EE 1.3, Servlets 2.3, JSP 1.2, EJB 2.0, JDBC 3.0, J2SE 1.4, and so on and so forth...) these past few months, and Web services have had me badly eating up the dust
Ex Animo Java!
-- Val
 
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Cool, I havent really done anything with soap yet,I've just begun reading the Spec..I'll check out your book on my next trip to the library errr I mean barnes&noble =p
 
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Bill,
Is there a synposis/ sample chapter etc avaialable anywhere.
Do you use Apache Soap or Axis Soap in your book.
Thanks a lot,
Sanjay
 
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Hi Bill,
I also used the SCJP exam cram.
My question is - are there any browser compatability issues with SOAP?
Thanks
 
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There is a sample chapter at the support site for the book:
http://www.lanw.com/books/javasoap/
When I started the book, AXIS was very primitive so Apache SOAP 2.2 is the version I used for examples.
My first outline for the book was very dependent on the Apache SOAP API, but then I realized that there will be lots of Java SOAP implementations so I completely rewrote the outline.
Good decision on my part now that Sun's API is completely different from Apache SOAP and AXIS is also a complete rewrite.
I don't think browsers will ever be used to work directly with SOAP - more likely it will be used behind the scenes to plug data into websites that the browsers look at.
Bill
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Originally posted by William Brogden:
There is a sample chapter at the support site for the book:
http://www.lanw.com/books/javasoap/
When I started the book, AXIS was very primitive so Apache SOAP 2.2 is the version I used for examples.
My first outline for the book was very dependent on the Apache SOAP API, but then I realized that there will be lots of Java SOAP implementations so I completely rewrote the outline.
Good decision on my part now that Sun's API is completely different from Apache SOAP and AXIS is also a complete rewrite.
I don't think browsers will ever be used to work directly with SOAP - more likely it will be used behind the scenes to plug data into websites that the browsers look at.
Bill
[ January 23, 2002: Message edited by: William Brogden ]

Hi Bill,
Thanks for the sample chapter.
"lots of Java SOAP implementations" and i notice you mention that in your web site too.
Which implementations do you think will most likely to be main implementation? Sun?
I think most of us, newbies, will pick up apache soap implementation now. Or is there another option?
john
 
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Hi, Bill
Does SOAP reach its maturity enough? What is the next version of SOAP like?
Thanks,
Doug.
 
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hi there
I am a frequent visitor but never did care to register myself till a few months back. I am a SCJP and this site helped me tremendously when I was studying for it. At present, I am desperately trying to keep with all the new developments in technology, SOAP/ Web Services being no exception
 
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Hi Bill,
With multiple java SOAP implementations in the arena, is there going to be a bench-marking of the implementations ? Do you suggest that we use Axis alpha 3 release since it is a complete re-write based on SAX parser ? I haven't had a chance to look at the API of SOAP 2.2 and I'm not sure if the API still remain same in Axis alpha 3 while the implementation may have changed.
With SUN's API available for download now, it's even more confusing which one to go for.
And there are some independent vendor implementations with add-on utilties too.
Srini
 
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Oh good - lots of questions
As far as which implementation to get started with, Apache SOAP has the advantage of maturity and an active mailing list so thats a good place to start experimenting.
As far as which to use for production systems, thats another story - there is just too much going on to tell who the winners will be.
As far as maturity of the standard - it is NOT there yet. The W3C XML Protocol group (XMLP) is still arguing over the damndest things! (And of course, the other XML related standards are evolving.) So the standard is not stable - looks like HTML all over again. Keep an eye on the XMLP at www.w3.org to see what may happen.
Axis APIs are completely different from Apache SOAP since it does not create DOM objects in memory. I have not seen any benchmarks but Axis is expected to be much faster - especially for big messages.
So - if you are going to learn SOAP, don't expect the API to be stable. Instead, you will be learning about basic concepts that will likely be very significant in the future of distributed computing and the Internet.
Bill
 
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