Does the book provide or suggest which application tool is the best.....

[Francis Siu]

Does the book provide or suggest which application tool is the best to develop the Java Programme on PDAs?
Because testing the programme is needed some real device or some simulation devices/tools.
All the ranchers can suggest some FREE simulation tools to me in testing the programme on PDAs.
thanks again

[Lasse Koskela]

A couple of free simulation tools:

Sun J2ME Wireless Toolkit

Nokia Developer Suite

These are for MIDP 2.0 but there are versions available for MIDP 1.0 as well. Also, some IDEs have integrated the WTK (Borland JBuilder Mobile Edition, Sun ONE Studio Mobile Edition, Oracle JDeveloper J2ME Extension).
[ July 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lasse Koskela ]

[Francis Siu]

thanks
Lasse Koskela
there are so many useful linkage

[Theodore Casser]

Most of the simulation tools seem to be geared towards smartphones - are there any simulation tools more aimed towards Palm/PocketPC devices? (Oracle's site shows a Palm and Blackberry, but gives no info, so I don't know if they really have them or not...)
And yes, I realize that in theory, anything that works on a smartphone should work on a PDA. The reason I ask is more just wanting a simulation tool that more resembles the environment I'm aiming my development at, which is more than likely a PocketPC.

[Francis Siu]

Theodore Casser
I see your point.
I realize that in theory, anything that works on a smartphone should work on a PDA.
I have not tried it.
Do you know any simulation tools which specific for PDAs?
thanks

[Theodore Casser]

Originally posted by siu chung man:
Do you know any simulation tools which specific for PDAs?

Or, more specifically, are there any J2ME emulators for the latest generation of devices, including ones that have color? Since I don't know of any myself, but haven't done enough research (I can't see a good many sites from work)...

[Lasse Koskela]

I think PalmSource has some tools specific for Palm products (including the color models).

[Daryl Wilding-McBride]

Yes they do. You will also need a ROM image for your target device and OS version, which you can upload from a real device, or download from Palm once you have registered at their Resource Pavilion.
If you're targeting the PocketPC, Microsoft have an emulator to download at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/pocket2003.asp
[ July 23, 2003: Message edited by: Daryl Wilding-McBride ]

[Theodore Casser]

Cool, Daryl, I'd never have known where to go look for that.
Now just to figure out how to port this app...

[Francis Siu]

cool.........
thanks

[Frank Manno]

If you're looking for a general IDE, I would recommend the Sun One Studio, Mobile Edition.
Some have said it's a hard find on the Sun site, but I had no problems download a copy. I think you have to be an early access member. Here's the product page for the Sun One Studio, Mobile Edition
Zucotto had an IDE, WhiteBoard SDK, but their site seems to lead to a 404 error page. Calls to their offices in both Canada and the US have led to non-answered phones, and all emails sent to the company have bounced back (with the exception of their info_at_zucotto_dot_com address, which has yet to be replied - apx. 1 month).
You could always stick with a non-IDE product (notepad, etc.), although I wouldn't recommend it. Even though an IDE may take away from your "learning" experience, my experience has proven that using an IDE can not only improve your coding, but will also help you in developing applications at a more rapid rate.
I remember reading somewhere that you could integrate the WTK (Wireless Toolkit) with many IDEs, including the Sun One Studio, Community Edition (free download) and NetBeans IDE.
Hope that helps!

[Lasse Koskela]

The last time I did J2ME I used the combination of Eclipse (my 1st choice IDE whenever possible) and Antenna, a set of J2ME tasks for your Ant script.
I developed in Eclipse and compiled by running the Ant script. The Ant script also launched the built application in the Sun J2ME WTK. Worked fine for me (I spent a couple of hours getting the build script working).