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J2ME-CDC Pah !

 
Dave Brown
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Just wanted to get this off my chest, I am really surprised at the lack of J2ME-CDC resources out there. My opinions of Java in geneneral so far have been that the companys affiliated with Java really push it to developers to get a big a developer base as possible. Hence all the free IDE's/ SDK's etc etc out ther and of course the realms upon realms of learning material.

And also for J2ME to a certain extent, BUT only when you're talking about midlets.

With the zillions of hightec mobile devices you can get these days, and there seems to be something new each month, a smaller pda, or a pda with new features , in built gps, pda's the size of phones with 400mhz processors, 64 mb ram as standard , keyboards built in to pda's, there is always something new SURELY there should be more interest in getting people developing for these platforms.

I dont like to praise microsoft (i've often said if they invented a vacuum cleaner it would be the only thing they did that doesnt suck) but from doing developing over a year ago on my old IPAQ, the .NET compact framework made things a breeze. And with visual studio 2005 just round the corner, I imagine its gonna be even more powerful, and easier to take advantage of the latest hardware.

I dont understand why the java world isnt trying to jump ahead and get into this market, ok netbeans has just released the mobility pack, but Its only based on the CLDC area. Eclipse users have EclipseME but once again, based on CLDC development. Ok, so to use CDC you can design using AWT etc in the standard j2se GUI designers but what about when you want to deploy an app ?

Ohhh its another world of pain.. It appears that you first have to decide VM you are going to use and make sure that the device if it has java, that the VM is compatiable with the things you want to develop. There are hundreds of forum posts by people having problems with their code working in one VM but not another.. AND the VM's that are rated for quick performance and reliability you have to pay through the teeth for !?! What's that about ? SUN get your ass into gear, and build an up to date CDC compatiable VM and get the PDA/Smartphone manufacturers to use it!

God knows how you are supposed to write an app that really takes advantage of the modern devices capabilities and have an installer for it that the public can just run expecting it to work.. It aint gonna happen it seems for a while.

As you can guess, i've found my whole exploration of the J2ME world quite disappointing as I was looking forward to converting my old .NET CF app to J2ME-CDC.

Phew that feels a bit better.
 
Mark Spritzler
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Yeah, for PocketPC, I wouldn't even consider Java, just go straight to VB.net and write a GUI application much quicker.

But I don't know I would say the same for a Palm. But I haven't coded for that platform, so saying that is like saying nothing.

But for Cell Phone stuff I'll stick with J2ME, thank you very much. Java is way to big on cell phones that Microsoft won't catch up there, because all the Mobile PC Cell Phones that I have seen is just to cludgey.

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Dave Brown
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Yeah me too, i wouldnt consider MS for phone stuff, but dont you think its gonna be historic quite soon ?

I was very impressed when I the Imate JAM, a PPC the same size as a phone, and that is just the first.. if JAVA doesnt do something to catch up soon then I think its going to be left behind very very soon, which is going to be very sad.
 
Satyam Kothapally
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I totally agree with Dave here

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