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Calling an applet method from JavaScript

 
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Does anyone know how to call an applet method from JavaScript when the applet is running in a 1.2 or 1.3 plugin. The applet doesn't seem to appear anywhere in the JavaScript object structure, so how do I access it?
The examples in the Java Script books I have only seem to work for "traditional" applets invoked using the "<applet>" tag, but not for plugin applets using "<embed>".
 
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