For fresh and Upcoming Graduates

[Jess King]

Hi Guys,
This post is more directed towards people with no professional experience..i.e; College graduates.. I am sure there are so many SCJP aspirants like me who are still in the college or who just came out of college.. I just want to ask those people, Do you think SCJP going to help in job search.. I know it doesnt give us job.. but my question is..would it be any help without any professional experience or whtsoever. I am sure the aim of taking a cert exam is to gain knowledge..but there is always a glimmer of hope of going up in the ladder of success.. So guys N gals.. if u have had anything to share regarding my question, please feel free to do so..
thanks
Jess

[Vinod Sinha]

It is true that it will not get you a job !
But definitely it will increase your chances
of getting one. Best of luck !

[John Dooley]

I've never been a fan of certification. I spent 20 years in industry & now I'm teaching undergrads. in all my time in industry (and I hired a _lot_ of people) a degree and experience always proved better than certification. Just MHO...

[John Summers]

In the UK i'd say that without a degree (unless you have like, 10 years experience) your options are drastically limited no matter how many vocational qualifications you have.
With a degree, you are in the game and will find virtually none of the other players have SCJP. For most jobs your CV will be beside about 10+ almost identical other CVs and I strongly feel that having SCJP can make the difference.
Purely from studying, I have found my abilities in interviews has increased drastically since my SCJP studies began, I now sound like a Java Dictionary on legs...
Good luck
john

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by Jess King:
Hi Guys,
This post is more directed towards people with no professional experience..i.e; College graduates.. I am sure there are so many SCJP aspirants like me who are still in the college or who just came out of college.. I just want to ask those people, Do you think SCJP going to help in job search.. I know it doesnt give us job.. but my question is..would it be any help without any professional experience or whtsoever. I am sure the aim of taking a cert exam is to gain knowledge..but there is always a glimmer of hope of going up in the ladder of success.. So guys N gals.. if u have had anything to share regarding my question, please feel free to do so..
thanks
Jess

Has c# helped you?

[LUCKY LUKE]

Just slightly increase chances.
However
Will you know more? Yes.
Do you have good books? Yes. (K & B)
Do you have good place to get answers? Yes. (Hint you are looking at it)
Downside?
exam $150

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by LUCKY LUKE:
Just slightly increase chances.
However
Will you know more? Yes.
Do you have good books? Yes. (K & B)
Do you have good place to get answers? Yes. (Hint you are looking at it)
Downside?
exam $150

yeah!, I try to swallow it and see it as an investment

[LUCKY LUKE]

I agree that it is too much.
But did you see thread By Marlene Miller where
they ask $75 for 3 sets of questions. Outrageous.
According to those prices Dan should ask $500
for his work.
Yes it is 3 sets of 61 question.
[ October 22, 2003: Message edited by: LUCKY LUKE ]

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by LUCKY LUKE:
I agree that it is too much.
But did you see thread By Marlene Miller where
they ask $75 for 3 sets of questions. Outrageous.

I think it was 3 tests of 60 questions *each*
[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Andres Gonzalez ]

[John Summers]

Andres,
How did you know I did a C# exam, too? That's really weird, have you somehow seen my CV?
john

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by John Summers:
Andres,
How did you know I did a C# exam, too? That's really weird, have you somehow seen my CV?
john

Mu ha ha ha ha ha !!!

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by John Summers:
Andres,
How did you know I did a C# exam, too? That's really weird, have you somehow seen my CV?
john

Now, seriously, I had no idea you'd taken a c# exam. As you can see in my previous post, I was quoting Jess's comment. In a recent topic, Jess mentioned she'd taken a c# exam. That was the reason..
Now I know you also took it, I've got good memory

[John Summers]

Ah! I see now.
weird coincidence.
I took MS 70-316 Windows Programming with C#.NET.
It really got me a lot more attention from job agencies than being just a pure java cv.
john