• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
programming forums Java Mobile Certification Databases Caching Books Engineering Micro Controllers OS Languages Paradigms IDEs Build Tools Frameworks Application Servers Open Source This Site Careers Other Pie Elite all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
Marshals:
  • Campbell Ritchie
  • Jeanne Boyarsky
  • Ron McLeod
  • Paul Clapham
  • Liutauras Vilda
Sheriffs:
  • paul wheaton
  • Rob Spoor
  • Devaka Cooray
Saloon Keepers:
  • Stephan van Hulst
  • Tim Holloway
  • Carey Brown
  • Frits Walraven
  • Tim Moores
Bartenders:
  • Mikalai Zaikin

1.5 or 1.4 that is the question.

 
Greenhorn
Posts: 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Having examined the boards and weighed up the costs, I have elected to take the 1.5 Certification exam. After a mad scramble around various websites and bookshops, I eventually bought a book in a shop (shock horror) as this was the only way I could guarantee having a java cert book that would cover 1.5.

The book I eventually bought was Phil Heller and Simon Roberts' Complete Java 2 Certification 5th edition (compatible with 1.5).

Now, however, I am having doubts; and the root of it is this: Is 1.5 simply 1.4(2) with some extra stuff on top, or is some stuff from 1.4 being scrapped? or to make it simpler is the following correct:

1.4 + stuff = 1.5

This was my initial understanding, but could someone please confirm this? Basically it would suck if I ended up with a cert that no one really wants right now.

Thanks
Mike




[ August 05, 2005: Message edited by: mad mike ]
 
ranger
Posts: 17347
11
Mac IntelliJ IDE Spring
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Don't be mad get glad.

"Mad Mike"-
Welcome to the JavaRanch! Please adjust your displayed name to meet the

JavaRanch Naming Policy.

You can change it

here.

Thanks! and welcome to the JavaRanch!

Mark
 
Mark Spritzler
ranger
Posts: 17347
11
Mac IntelliJ IDE Spring
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Some of the objectives from 1.4 have been removed, so the book should not cover those parts that were removed.

5.0 exam is the way to go, in my biased opinion.

Mark
 
Ranch Hand
Posts: 53
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Originally posted by mad mike:
1.5 or 1.4 that is the question



Depends on whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them.
 
author
Posts: 119
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Mike -

Welcome to JavaRanch. And congratulations on you excellent taste in literature!

If you compare the objectives for the 1.4 and 5.0 exams, you'll find that the 5.0 version is a superset of the 1.4 version, with possibly a bit of re-emphasis here and there. So you can't go wrong by going for 5.0 and besides, a lot of those new features are really nifty.

BTW, there's one piece of generics that I wish I had covered in more depth in my book. My publisher will soon be posting an addendum on www.sybex.com, but if you'd like me to email you the word doc just send me a private message with your email address.

-- Phil
 
arch rival
Posts: 2813
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Philip is being entirely biased in his recommendation as he wrote the book. However as an (relatively) unbiased commentator I used Philips earlier SCJP books and they were excellent!

One area the 1.5 (Java 5) exam has dropped is the need to know about bit shifting operators << >> etc. As you can spend many years programming Java without using these operators it is not much of a loss.

The new exam covers some I/O topics, which should not be too difficult to learn as there is a large amount of material about, including on the web. The coverage of Generics is a little more tricky though as this is a new feature in Java 5, so make sure you cover that as well as you possibly can.
 
Quick! Before anybody notices! Cover it up with this tiny ad:
a bit of art, as a gift, that will fit in a stocking
https://gardener-gift.com
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic