can we get good score without working on jdk 1.5

[madhu v pe]

Hi,

I am not having system at home,
few hours like 3hrs I'll get time to practice, checking notes ont he internet and javaranch.
I can practice on scjp1.4 and earlier versions.
in this Can I get good score??
please suggest

Thanks

[Quintin Stephenson]

Hi madhu

You could pass, but don't count on a great score. Though I would not recommend it at all. My question to you would be how you would gain a feel of how things work (behavioral stuff that can only be gained by trying the code/principles out), their advantages and pitfalls for functionality in the java 5 specification only e.g. generics, enums, enhanced for loops etc.

You can have more that one JVM installation on you machine, so why not ask who ever (your boss, university admin people, system administrator) is in charge of the machine where you do have access if you/they can install java 5 to help you study and practice. If you can't gain access to a java 5 JVM then go for the java 1.4. As far as I'm aware all the other java exams after the SCJP don't require a prerequisite that the SCJP must be of a specific version.

Use this site and get a book or 2 like the one used by most of members on this site called 'SCJP Sun Certified Programmer for Java 5: Study Guide Exam' by Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates. I used 'Complete Java 2 Certification Study Guide ' by Philip Heller and Simon Roberts only because I got the book before I found out about this great site, but is equally good.

Cheers and good luck
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[ June 06, 2007: Message edited by: Quintin Stephenson ]

[Barry Gaunt]

I have not tried it myself, but you could try it: a remote java compiler.

[madhu v pe]

Originally posted by Quintin Stephenson:
Hi madhu

You could pass, but don't count on a great score. Though I would not recommend it at all. My question to you would be how you would gain a feel of how things work (behavioral stuff that can only be gained by trying the code/principles out), their advantages and pitfalls for functionality in the java 5 specification only e.g. generics, enums, enhanced for loops etc.

You can have more that one JVM installation on you machine, so why not ask who ever (your boss, university admin people, system administrator) is in charge of the machine where you do have access if you/they can install java 5 to help you study and practice. If you can't gain access to a java 5 JVM then go for the java 1.4. As far as I'm aware all the other java exams after the SCJP don't require a prerequisite that the SCJP must be of a specific version.

Use this site and get a book or 2 like the one used by most of members on this site called 'SCJP Sun Certified Programmer for Java 5: Study Guide Exam' by Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates. I used 'Complete Java 2 Certification Study Guide ' by Philip Heller and Simon Roberts only because I got the book before I found out about this great site, but is equally good.

Cheers and good luck
Q

[ June 06, 2007: Message edited by: Quintin Stephenson ]

Thanks Stephen for your suggestions.
Yes I am reading that great book by K&B book, really great one.
yes I am not getting confidence on the topics.
I have left practicing 1.5 specific topics.
can you tell me one thing, just reading concepts in the books working 2-3 hours for 5 days in a week on the system is enough?
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Thanks a lot Barry for the link provided.
its compiling fine, showing errors. when the program is right generating .class.
it is not having option of running a program i.e java xx.java
If I copy ".class" into my system try to run still same problem
not supporting 1.5 since I am having 1.4.

Please any one can try this, if you get any idea please share with me.

Thanks in advance.

[ June 06, 2007: Message edited by: madhu v pe ]
[ June 06, 2007: Message edited by: madhu v pe ]

[Chandra Bhatt]

Hi Barry,

That's great, at JavaRanch, people are there to help you anyway as you did
this time too. Remote java compiler is really cool.

Thanks for finding that link.

[Quintin Stephenson]

madhu v pe wrote:

can you tell me one thing, just reading concepts in the books working 2-3 hours for 5 days in a week on the system is enough?

Tricky question. This would be all dependant on your mind set.

So that you know how I did my studying, I'm and Oracle and java developer based in London (7 ish years Oracle, and about 2 years java 1.4). I did most of my studying on the train to and from work (about 1,5 hour per day- sometimes more because I could do stuff at work) with testing at home (I appreciate you don't have this luxury). I did not study on weakends (I married with kids).

The stuff I knew I knew well, I just read up to ensure I haven't missed anything, but the things I had not dealt with on a daily basis I ensured I tested examples, modified them and then did it all over again. I read my book 3 times followed by the testing of each chapter. I also read alot of the forums here and sometime I took part (sometime making erronious comments that I would now consider really daft from myself). I also make use of the mock exams that you can get hold of via the ranch.

I took my time in studying for my SCJP because I wanted to do it once and only once. There's nothing wrong with failing an exam, but why rush it and put uneccessary preasure on youself or throw valuable marks away be skipping the topics.

If you're not going to do the java 5 topics, then stick to doing the 1.4 exam. If you're looking to do the other java exams afterward, they don't seem to care about the version of SCJP, just that you have one.

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Barry great suggestion. I've seen something similar for unix where people can practice on line.

Cheers and good luck
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