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hi
I am giving the SCJP(BETA) exam on the 22nd of august.
I am also currently doing a course at IBM-ACE. This course is scheduled to finish in November, 2000.
By the end of it, I shall be reasonably competent in the following:-
C, C++, Advanced JAVA, VB++, ORACLE, DB2, general RDBMS theory, UNIX, Object oriented analysis and design in UML, E-commerce.
Currently, I am a arts graduate with a law degree.
I have no work experience in the field of computers.
I am open to working in India and abroad.
What do you think my next step should be?
With the Beta results expected in late october and my course finishing in November, could you suggest ways of reaching out to potential employers.
Is it helpful to post my resume on the internet.
It was suggested by one of you, that it helps if you have some free applets or other applications on the internet. Could you give some suggestions on possible projects.
I have gained enough competency in Java to create a chat program on the internet. And it actually works.
I would find any suggestions useful.
Rahul
 
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Hai Rahul,
First of all I don't know in which place u are in India.Please mention that in ur next mail.And don't mention too many subjects in the resume without sufficient profiency in a particular subject.Mention only the subjects or concepts only in which u are perfect.Without experince I don't think that u can go abroad.So first try for entry level Java programmer in small companies.Later try for big companies.I don't think that posting ur resume on net is useful to u.If u are with experience it might help u.Don't bother about the salary.Accept whatever job u get even if it is in a small company.Experience is useful rather than salary.
Regarding the projects,check out this forum thoroughly so that u will get the email ids of the concerned persons.I have gone through somone who is working on applets freely on net,but with certificate stating that he has done that applet on net.I don't remember his name and id ,so check out so that it might be useful to u.
All the Best,
Radha.

 
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Thanks Radha.
Since I made this posting, I passed SCJP with 98% and now I am working on my SCJD. I have also got a job as a 'software engineer' in a multinational company.
 
Radha Damera
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Hello Rahul,
Congrats!!!In which company did u get the job.By the way,tell me how u got the job ie either through jcp or through anyother means.I wonder how u got the job in a multinational company without prior computer background.
All the best,
Radha.
 
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Its a Swiss Company which recently entered India, but is rapidly expanding. It has current strength of 25 IT professionals but is expanding it to 150 professionals.
The reasons for landing the job were:-
1. Luck.
2. Good friends in the right places got me the interview.
3. My performance in the interview. The interview lasted 2 1/2 hours. I was told that I had been rated very high in my:-
a. maturity
b. motivation
c. creative problem solving
d. analytical & technical skills
4. Resume: 98% SCJP was attractive. It also helped that I had got 100% in Maths in BA and outstanding scores in the IBM course, and won the first prize in programming in a local competition.
5. Project: A Chat Server and a Chat Client program, with some fun features, that I had developed.
In fact, you will be surprised to know, that I have another standing offer of a job from a bigger American multinational company in Hyderabad. I am hesitant in joining it only because Hyderabad is far off. In fact I would not mind relocating even to America, but then the rewards would really be worth it.
My impression is that if you look around well enough, there are a lot of entry level jobs in the mid-range companies, including multinationals. Also, an attractive score in SCJP does open quite a few doors. Just stay away from the top-companies.

 
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Originally posted by Rahul Rathore:
Just stay away from the top-companies.


...why would you want to stay away from them? Do you mean because they would be looking for more experience?
 
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Yes George, experience and Computer Science university degrees. I have neither.
 
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Seems to be true Rahul. Every time I send an email to a big company asking about entry level/training level jobs...I get an email back from campusrecruiter@....or something along those lines. No experience, no degree means long hard road. But any recruiter I have talked to has told me any IT experience is good experience.
Remember you can always continue to look for a job after you have found one.
 
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Hello Rahul,
I did my bachelors in Commerce and now Iam doing my masters in computer applications.I am working as software Engineer in a private firm from the past 6 months.I want to enter into a mnc.Will it be possible for me to do so?i don't have jcp.So please advice me with ur experience whether my experience would be enough without jcp for me to proceed further.Please advice me as it is crucial for me.
With Regards,
Radha.
 
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Dear Radha
You have more IT experience than I have. You may be knowing more about the available opportunities.
I have already conveyed my impression that there are enough entry-level jobs available including in MNCs, provided you long enough and hard enough.
I think an SCJP would definitely help brighten your resume and establish your credentials prima-facie.
After you get an MCA you will definitely be well qualified for even the top-companies, and you would also be eligible for H1-B.
As Lee says - any IT experience is good experience, and you can continue looking for a job even after you have one.
Lets hope that some more experienced Javarancher helps you out here. I think majority of Javaranchers are Indians.
We will keep in touch through the Javaranch. We will share and learn from each other's experience.
I think patience and perseverance are great virtues. There are so many opportunities out there. Nothing is out of reach if you are determined enough.
Best of Luck.

 
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Thanks Rahul,
I got some encouragement from ur reply.At present Iam learning xam and ejb.Within 3 months,I will try to aim for jcp and after learning xml and ejb,I will try for jobs in various companies.I don't have any idea to continue MCA as I feel that I might waste 3 valuable years in revising the subjects or concepts which i know before hand.But Iam in dilemma whether will american companies take people without B.Tech/MCA?Anyway many many thanks for ur valuable advices.
With Regards,
Radha.

 
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