Java Certification (help)

[Nomi Malo]

Hi, I need advice regarding java certification. I am preparing for SCJP 5 and I have no development experience previously. Recently I got a Java job which involve core java, swing, and EJB3. I have the following 3 issues:

1) Majority of the java jobs in the market involve servlets, jsp, hibernate but I am not doing this work on job which is depressing. It would be hard to spend time learning servlets and jsp while i have to work on ejb3 for which i have no exposure.Although some people told me ejb3 is far better then servlets and JSP.

2) I am not sure if I should continue working on SCJP 5 certification or start learning servlets or JSP. SCWCD certification cannot be done without SCJP.

3)Is it possible to learn and work on ejb3 if you have previously never worked on J2EE?

Kindly advise me as I am feeling confused at the moment. Thanks

[Ulf Dittmer]

Majority of the java jobs in the market involve servlets, jsp, hibernate but I am not doing this work on job which is depressing.

Why is it depressing? Does it really matter that much what other people work on if you have a job you like?

Although some people told me ejb3 is far better then servlets and JSP.

That's an odd statement, since EJB and Servlets/JSP are independent of one another, and are used to address completely different problems.

[Swati Udas]

I would advice to go step by step. First complete SCJP and then proceed with further certifications. It would help in long term to follow a systematic approach.
And dont worry about the job. Its always good to have handson on various technologies.

Thats my personal opinion, you are free to decide what you find comfortable.

[Michael Raymond Jr.]

Originally posted by Nomi Malik:
Hi, I need advice regarding java certification. I am preparing for SCJP 5 and I have no development experience previously. Recently I got a Java job which involve core java, swing, and EJB3. I have the following 3 issues:

1) Majority of the java jobs in the market involve servlets, jsp, hibernate but I am not doing this work on job which is depressing. It would be hard to spend time learning servlets and jsp while i have to work on ejb3 for which i have no exposure.Although some people told me ejb3 is far better then servlets and JSP.

2) I am not sure if I should continue working on SCJP 5 certification or start learning servlets or JSP. SCWCD certification cannot be done without SCJP.

3)Is it possible to learn and work on ejb3 if you have previously never worked on J2EE?

Kindly advise me as I am feeling confused at the moment. Thanks

you don't HAVE to get certified in jsp or ejb. get your scjp, your job experience, and learn jsp/servlets on your own. putting skills on a resume while having similar job experience can still be effective and convincing.

or, maybe even study the ejb Sun certification and put the scwcd on the back burner for now.

[Tony Smith]

How did you get that job? If you are in USA, hook me up. lol

[priti manas duddilla]

"You cannot appreciate Day unless you have suffered a long chilly night"

You cannot appreciate the beauty of JSP's unless you know the problems of writing code (java and GUI related combined) in servlets.
You cannot appreciate the usefulness of EJB's unless you know the problems of mixing up Presentation logic (generally JSP's(servlets)) and Business Logic(generally EJB'b).

Please donot think about just this present project in hand.As you are already prepared for SCJP5, go ahead n pass the test, then you can study Servlets and JSP's while working on EJB's concurrenly, which will in fact make you undersatnd EJB's much more better.

[Marc Peabody]

Finish SCJP. Don't worry about anything else until that is done.

After that, take a look at SCBCD to build on your EJB 3 experiences. Your real world experience and SCBCD studies will compliment each other well.

Assuming you want to do front-end web-app work in the future, consider this. If I were interviewing you and I saw that you had EJB3 experience, I would expect you to know EJB3 extremely well. If you couldn't answer EJB3 questions well, which you'd have experience in, that would be an extreme discredit to you in my book.

After SCBCD, then look at SCWCD. But my entire recommendation is pointless if you don't finish that SCJP.

I'm recommending certifications galore here not so much because I think they carry uber-merit so much as I think they can provide good direction and motivation for learning particular technologies.