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Choice between my Bread and ..Java my Love

 
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Hi guys
This is the 6th company to our Campus for placements
Yet they do not ask Java.. they just stick to the old concepts of C and Aptitute test..
I am really really depresed ..Are there very less companies in INdia who work on java technology...
everyother commpany that comes to our campus is looking for Oracle or VB programmers ....
and my coleagues doing these also get placed ......
I am still unemployed...java is my -my Love...and here there is a Question of
choosing between my Bread and my Love....
If people out there can post their experiences about the use of Java Products and that ...if they also feel the same or
I am missing something for .
Sunil
Java .....my love .......sigh
 
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Companies do the same here in USA.
I think the reason is (at least here in USA), is that colleges are about 10 years behind the real world. C, C++ have been around for quite awhile (as compared to Java), and are used extensively in undergraduate classes.
Java is starting to make its way into the academic environment, but very, very slowly. Most of the Java courses I see are being offered as electives and not as mainstream Computer Science majors courses.
Therefore, the college recruiters stick with C, C++ for their requirements.
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I would be hitting both the college recruiters and the real world. Hopefully, you can get a C, C++ offer, and then sit on that for 3-4 weeks while you look for Java position in real world. If nothing happens in real world, then grab the C, C++ offer.
It's alot tougher to find a job in real world than via college recruiters. The worst thing you want to have happen, it to be unemployed for 6-8 montsh after graduating. The C,C++ job may not be what you want - but you have your foot in the door. And you can certainly learn UML and OOA&D while doing C++. And having those skills will improve your Java job search tremendoulsy in the real world.
Just my two cents.
John Coxey
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John, I suppose you got my personal mail by now... I am selected in this 6th company...
and guess what....They asked me to work on Java and (later C# ).. this is rather strange that in tests and interview they did ask a lot of question on C and C++. and aprt from the regular aptitute test and an Unconventional Subjective Technical test .. having a mixture of Oracle, C , General Happenings and For if loops....
The company is Nucleus Software.. based in New delhi.India.The package is not enviable one but I think it is a break that was all I needed to bridge the GAP between the institutes and the Induatry. ( THOSE 10 Years- you mentioned John )
I needed this break desperately .. so John it is party time for me ...Wish I could buy you a drink but dont have any money .. or Credit card right now -you know students are always a broke.
(I have still 2 months left in my PG. I am an BE (Mech Engg ) + MBA Systems)
John especially your earlier posts were "excellent" and it is therough them that I got the idea of projecting my weak points as well...in the interview.
see the post at http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000286.html
YOur drink is due..... do mail me where do you live?
so if Just if I happpen to come there I will drop at your place to say "thanks" personally
It is embarassing to have initiated on such a depressed mail ...

But as they say- all is well that ends well

Sunil
thanks Everyone for keeping the spirit of Ranch alive.
[This message has been edited by sunil choudhary for introducing the link]

[This message has been edited by sunil choudhary (edited February 17, 2001).]
 
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Congratulations!
Good luck to you.
 
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Sunil:
- Glad to hear you landed a job. Don't worry about the $$ for now. As long as it pays the rent (I guess you have rent in India), and gives you some spending money.
- Don't quit learning. If you do not have SJCP, then go for it. Regarding C# - I have seen only one class being offered on this, but don't know of anyone in industry actually using it at this point.
- I live in Denver. There is a Budweiser Beer plant up in Fort Collins, Co. You can have them send me a case or two down here to Denver Fort Collins is about 60 mi north of Denver.
- Did not get your e-mail at my aol account - can you send again?
- Good luck, let us know how things work out.
John Coxey
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Thanks Eric Barnhill and John Coxey.
Sorry for being late but I went all the way to New Delhi to see the company myself. and talk to the guys.
I think it will be quite a learning Experience.. in Nucleus Soft...
About the post .. John.. I wil send it again.. But not the same post.. And I will remember the Bear when I come there ( I mean Beer!!! )
Thanks once again ..
Sunil Choudhary
[This message has been edited by sunil choudhary (edited February 25, 2001).]
 
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