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What Happened? (John)

 
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Seriously, if you don't mind sharing with us what happened...
You were relocated to Denver from where? They paid for everything, right? And how much time after were you laid off? Did they want money back? ...
What was their explanation?
Only if you feel comfortable...
 
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Hey john,
Sorry to hear about your job. Buddy, i had warned you in one of my posts that lay offs are rife now. I was on bench for 4 weeks and then got i layed off. Any way John, i am sure u'd land with a great job in a short time. My best wishes to you.
Rajesh.
 
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Tony Alicea / Rajesh Hegde:
What I would like to do is relay my job search experience (much like you did Tony) for the new job search ... so here goes. BTW/ I am 37 - USA Citizen - MS Computer Science - and unemployed as of 10:00AM (Tue: Mar 27, 2001). Instead of complaining/whining, I would like to share my experiences with all as I go forth and try to find a new job.
So what was old job all about? Here is the background.
I was relocated from Philladelphia, PA to Denver, CO at their expense. I have spent last 12 weeks on the bench - did do some preliminary Java work (3 days) - but not on a billable role. Company basically contracts you out to the big telecommunications outfits. For Denver that would be Qwest, AT&T Broadband, and Time-Warner. This means all their eggs are in the same basket.
The job was for a junior to mid level Java programmer. I have about 1 year with Java plus 1 year of teaching "Java and Data Structures" at the university level.
We have been hiring these system analysts folks at the rate of 3 to 6 per week. We have about 1500 employees in the Denver area.
So I was surprised that the technical guys (there were three of us) got the ax.
Severance package:
- 3 weeks pay + 1 week back vacation pay.
- 1 month additional paid insurance.
- relocation back to PA (at same cost as getting me out to Denver).
Issues:
- I had to ask for relcoation package - but they gave it to me after I complained to management yesterday.
- I asked for a 60 day grace period on the relocation package - as I would like to look for job in Colorado area. This would be adventageous to company as they might get out of the relocation package. This issue is still pending.
- They also agreed to pay remaining 3 months rent on apartment lease at $500/month - if I take immediate relocation.
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So that's about it.
I am currently redoing the resume. It's going to have to be two pages long. I've been debating about putting the new company down on the resume' - but am going to have to. The issue being that I need to explain on resume how I ended up in Colorado (the reader would see Denver listed as the job location). But that means that I start my resume off with two layoffs (the previous was Lucent).
So that's the story so far.
If it's nice tomorrow (like it was today) I am going fishing and start the job search on Thursday. BTW/ It had to be about 70+ degrees here in Denver this morning. Spring is comming.
Later,
John Coxey
(jpcoxey@aol.com)
P.S. -> Any recruiters/companies that have a position for a junior to mid-level Java programmer - feel free to drop me a line.
[This message has been edited by John Coxey (edited March 27, 2001).]
 
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Hey John,
I must say that you have a real cool attitude. Nice to know that inspite of this adversity you are thinking of fishing. Thats the way your spirits should be.
Its good that the company is giving you a severance package. In my company where i was laid off last time, we were given one day notice with no severance pay.
Good luck for your job hunt.
Rajesh
[This message has been edited by Rajesh Hegde (edited March 27, 2001).]
 
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John:
I think their package wasn't too bad considering what has happened to others.
So you like Colorado, eh? I don't particularly. Was driven there out of necessity on layoff of 1985 from Ft. Lauderdale. And I am an "ocean person", not a "mountain person" so you can imagine.
I do hear that Colorado may be the "Silicon Mountain".
With an MS degree and Java experience (and the consumer confidence going up again) you may not have to wait long.
In the meantime enjoy the fishing!
Good luck!
 
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All:
Regarding the severance package - it was fair. Wish we got the required 60 days that factory workers (hourly) get. Lucent gave me 75 days notice and vacation, and a 25% bonus (our division did really well that year).
I am not too worried about the layoff. I am still single, no wife, no kids, no real bills other than some student loans. I may grab a security guard job (where you can study at night - did this before). But the rates out here are around $9.00/hour and rent is like $500/month - so you gotta work 2 weeks just to pay the rent. Yuck!!!
I am about 8-10 weeks away from taking SJCP. Have about 24 weeks into it so far. Spent about 3 hours/day while on bench studying for it. The java.io.* package is taking forever. The notes are all done - but it's getting all the methods down that is taking the time.
Will keep you all in the loop. Stay tuned.
Later,
John Coxey
(jpcoxey@aol.com)
 
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