Confused about java's future

[Garry Kalra]

Pls guide me about the future of java. Everyday i hear people say that java is no more and there seems to be no more jobs on java.
Personally speaking, i think it is the best language in the world, but the market seems to be thinking otherwise. Due to the market i am concentrating more on c and c++, but i always desire to program more on java.
Pls guide as to what is the future of java. I am an SCJ2P and am preparing for the developers examination. Currently i am in the final semester of my masters in software engineering and am looking for a trainee position. I also have a website dedicated to java and have built a discussion form similar to javaranch as part of my exercise in JSP and MySQL. The site is available at www.webappcabaret.com/javaaddicts or surf.to/javaaddicts or surf.to/gauravkalra
Looking forward to everyones valuable guidance.
Garry Kalra

[steb]

Future of Java? An academic language, an excellent training tool. The one which will help students to learn OOP, and other modern techniques (paradigms?).
Nice language, excellent API, but not been used in the field for
a host of problems and better competitors.
A replacement for Pascal, in other words.
If you want to stay in academia, think in Java. If you want to do the REAL things, think in C++.

[Mark Herschberg]

***** FOOOSSSHHHHHHH *****
Let's hope I put out the flmes in time. Before anyone posts here, I would strongly recommend first searching this forum on such key words as:

• java is dead
  
• is java dead
  
• java dead
  
• future of java
  
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• etc
  

We can save a lot of bits by not rehashing what's been flammed to death.
--Mark

[Alok Pota]

Pls guide me about the future of java. Everyday i hear people say that java is no more and there seems to be no more jobs on java.
Personally speaking, i think it is the best language in the world, but the market seems to be thinking otherwise. Due to the market i am concentrating more on c and c++, but i always desire to program more on java.
Pls guide as to what is the future of java. I am an SCJ2P and am preparing for the developers examination. Currently i am in the final semester of my masters in software engineering and am looking for a trainee position. I also have a website dedicated to java and have built a discussion form similar to javaranch as part of my exercise in JSP and MySQL. The site is available at www.webappcabaret.com/javaaddicts or surf.to/javaaddicts or surf.to/gauravkalra
>>> Surprisingly, despite your concerns about Java, you chose Java to make this web site of yours. I am curious why you did not buy a $1000 Visual C++ CD to do the same. You would have to buy a SQL server CD for your database.
Could it because you and lot of other IT managers with(*brains*) know of the financial benefits of using free technology like Java to get *stuff* done.
C/C++ are not cut out for RAD (rapid application development). Sure if you want to develop the next OS, some system level software go ahead with your C/C++ skills. But if you want to land a job in the RAD arena you will have to be in tune with the latest such as Java, C# etc. M$ itself is changing its RAD strategy they are pushing a slower C# before their faster VC++
YOu see the academic language Java has made even M$ change its strategy.

[js yang]

Just out of curiosity, why do people who disdain Java bother to come to Java bulletin boards? Don't they have anything better to do?

[Shan Karawita]

Hi everybody,
What I can't understand is why these people are worrying too much about the future of JAVA.Actually I can't say anything about the JAVA's future, but the present is not too bad for me.I'm living in Sri Lanka & working as JAVA developer (In Asia's leading software company which develop software for Europe , Scandanavian Countries , Japan , etc.).In our division there are about 30 JAVA people & all of them are SCJP2's (All together there are more than 600 developers working for my company & the others are working on MS technologies , Oracle , C++ , Lotus Notes , etc).Our company has funded for all the people for their SCJP certification & pushing us to do the Developer exam & the Architect exams.We have almost finished two huge JAVA projects (With J2EE Architect & WebLogic) for Norway's leading airline company (We have written EJB components to interface the main frames call AMADEUS & TANDEM) we will be getting more JAVA projects from the same client for next 2 years.Also we have got 2 huge (mulitmillion $ )JAVA projects from Japan( One of the worlds leading telecommunication company) while we gotonly one project for Pro C from them & there are lot of JAVA prjects yet to come.So I can't see any dark clouds upon the JAVA's future.
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[Raghav Mathur]

this is just the feeling of insecurity these people have .......... i don;t think there is anything wrong with ........ offcourse they are not as brave as you JS

Originally posted by js yang:
Just out of curiosity, why do people who disdain Java bother to come to Java bulletin boards? Don't they have anything better to do?

[John Coxey]

I think the current state of the job market is the reason the "Java is Dead" thread comes up so much. And as others have said on this board, Java is defnitely NOT dead.
The real question being asked - is "how do I get into this field". My answer is, if I were new to the field - I would definitely learn Java - then JSP/EJB/XML/UML. Would probably grab a few certifications along the way. This, in addition to a 4 yr college degree (CS/IS/EE).
We heard from a speaker yesterday - that he feels that the .NET platform is going to be a major player in the next year or so. And that we need to take a serious look at this in the next few month. Right now though, the .NET technology is in its infancy.
Speaker also says Microsoft is going to have a major announcement regarding .NET sometime in the next two weeks.
John Coxey
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