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Dear Friends
I have wonderful news for you all .According to an article in www.javaworld.com , Java
will overtake C/C++ by 2002 .
Kindly refer the following link
http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2804967,00.html
to get the full article .
Hope this article gives confidence to those who are still in doubts about Java's potential .
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[This message has been edited by krishna anand (edited August 23, 2001).]
 
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Dre-e-e-am dream dream dream dream
you have one more companion who dreams all the time 'Raghav Mathur'.
 
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Yepper...and by that time .net will have taken over.
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Hewlett-Packard sponsored a .net vs Java seminar this past week. From what I gathered, Microsoft is really going to cater to the C/C++/Java crowd with the .net platform. The folks that are going to have a learning curve are the Visual Basic folks.
The gentleman who gave the talk says that it's the .net platform (not the C# language) that is going to give Java a run for it's money.
He actually feels that the two technologies (Java & .Net) may actually end up merging - with/without the blessing of Sun or Microsoft.
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I am kind of just beginning to delve into real-world J2EE projects - so I was only able to grasp the outer fringes of this gentleman's talk.
Just my two cents.
John Coxey
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That information is consistent with the what I've heard and read elsewhere.
If Microsoft delivers an IDE that outputs identical object code regardless of the language the source is written in they could have a juggernaut development platform. It is the .Net platform that has the most promise, not C#.
Since .Net can use any of the Visual Studio languages (I don't know what else there is beyond C++, J++, and VB) it could be a nice platform for people that are developing code specifically for the Windows OS. Throw in "real" Java support and it might be adopted by a lot of IT shops.
I'd be interested in hearing what the speaker had to say about .Net impacting distributed projects across multiple platforms. What does .Net do in an application server environment that Java cannot do?
P.S.
John - I hope your fly-fishing time isn't being cut by these technology presentations.
 
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Dear Friends
The debate about whether Java will overtake C++ has been taking place also in the site :www.theserverside.com ,kindly refer the
following thread to learn more about the arguments /counter-arguments : http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=8530
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Michael:
From what I hear - the platform is going to be Object-Oriented, and the new concepts would be most difficult for Visual Basic programmers. I am not a VB programmer - so I am just repeating what I heard.
What surprised me the most - was that the speaker went so far as to say that Visual Basic users would be "left in the dark." He said it will be interesting to see how the VB community reacts.
Regarding fly-fishing and work. Company flew me to Denver (from Philly) last week so I could get my mail (been 5 weeks) and I took Sat off to hit up the South Platte (about 1 hour from Denver).
Boss has a Pig Roast today at his place - so I gotta go hit that up. Actually, should be lots of fun.
Later,
Johnny
[This message has been edited by John Coxey (edited August 25, 2001).]
 
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and what do you do ...... sleep all the time ?

Originally posted by Neha Sharma:
Dre-e-e-am dream dream dream dream
you have one more companion who dreams all the time 'Raghav Mathur'.


 
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Originally posted by krishna anand:
Dear Friends
The debate about whether Java will overtake C++ has been taking place also in the site :www.theserverside.com ,kindly refer the
following thread to learn more about the arguments /counter-arguments : http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=8530


We're discussing .Net indepedantly of the "my language is better than your language" debate. I don't care what language I code in as long as it pays the bills.
 
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Raghav: 'Dil pe mat le yaar haath me le'
 
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is this why you are here at ranch discussing all this , and supposidly you want valuable suggestion ...... if yes then stop critisizing ...ok !

Originally posted by Neha Sharma:
Raghav: 'Dil pe mat le yaar haath me le'


 
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I think you didn't understand let me give my valuable suggestion to you 'Don't take it in your heart, take it in your hands!!'
 
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i can very well understand what you ment ...... that's what i,am saying , we are here to disscuss something valueable and i don't think your suggestions have proved to be valuable to anyone .

Originally posted by Neha Sharma:
I think you didn't understand let me give my valuable suggestion to you 'Don't take it in your heart, take it in your hands!!'


 
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But Raghav,
Should we not also have some light moments while discussing a valuable thing also. Like have a can of beer from me ....


i can very well understand what you ment ...... that's what i,am saying , we are here to disscuss something valueable and i don't think your suggestions have proved to be valuable to anyone .


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Muhammad Ashikuzzaman (Fahim)
Sun Certified Programmer For Java 2 Platform
--When you learn something, learn it by heart!
 
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sure we can have , not some but many good moments here at ranch but not at the cost of criticising others .
 
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I wasn't criticising you. I found you and Krishna too idealistic, both of you looked away from realities. Krishna thinks that Job situation is not bad and Raghav thinks 'Technologies doesn't die' so I just said Krishna you always keep sleeping and you have a companion. I was just kidding neither I meant Harsh not was criticizing. Anyway if you felt hurt 'I'm Sorry'
 
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First of all let me also be sorry for all that happened secondly let me tell you that iam not an idealist but a realist . When i say the technology never dies , i mean it ! . That's not a idealistic approach but a realistic . That's what we call optimism i guess . I know many people wouldn't agree on that cos there are too many negitive thought prevailing out there .
Mr krishna anand doesn't seem to an idealist .... what all he says is based on certain facts which are colleted by him and i don't think that speaking in favour of something is being idealist. What's wrong in speaking in favour of java ( in this case ) and what's wrong in speaking good about the job market .Does all this harm any body ? ....phsycologicaly i think all this have a good result ..... at least he's trying to help people who fear and are insecure about there java career.
Rgarding me...... i don't actaully mind what people say or think about me and i did not feel hurt by your comments . I feel bad when you criticize somebody else's efforts ( MR krishna in this case). I always try my best to sooth people who are insecure of there java careers ..... do you think this is being idealistic ?
Anyway .... lets finish off this topic here .... sorry for everything .

Originally posted by Neha Sharma:
I wasn't criticising you. I found you and Krishna too idealistic, both of you looked away from realities. Krishna thinks that Job situation is not bad and Raghav thinks 'Technologies doesn't die' so I just said Krishna you always keep sleeping and you have a companion. I was just kidding neither I meant Harsh not was criticizing. Anyway if you felt hurt 'I'm Sorry'


 
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Raghav, I like all the good news that you have delivered to the JavaRanch. Do not be worried about criticisms. Everybody receives them. Even Mother Theresa was criticized for accepting donation from some dictators. Such is life.
 
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ya .... you are right ..... thanx anyways .
i don;t care about myself being critisized .... i feel bad for others who are critisised for there efforts .

Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
Raghav, I like all the good news that you have delivered to the JavaRanch. Do not be worried about criticisms. Everybody receives them. Even Mother Theresa was criticized for accepting donation from some dictators. Such is life.


 
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