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can SCJP certification help in getting MS compSci ?

 
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hello java ranchers !
i am an engineering graduate with non computer science background .please let me know , whether getting an "SCJP" would help me in ms compsci in US universities ?
thanks and regards
 
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Hi,
I'm have a MIS background and am starting my MS CS in January. I have a SCJP. Many classes in the program have projects done in Java and if your focus is software you will have to know OO. Knowing java and the concepts of OO well, which is a natural consequence of going through the certification, is a major plus since it will allow you to focus on the software problems instead of strugle with java.
However, if you don't have a certification and don't know java, you can (and probably will have to) take java as a pre-requisite.
Best,
--Carlisia
 
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As Carlisia notes, getting the SCJP will have given you basic experience in programming, which may be useful. Certainly as you do programming projects in your classes, experience helps. However, the OO knowledged covered in the SCJP will likely be only part of a single course you need to take for a MS, if that (most MS programs probably already assume you know programing as part of your CS background). The courses you will take on systems, AI, complexity theory, architecture, etc will not draw much directly upon your SCJP kowledge.
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The courses you will take on systems, AI, complexity theory, architecture, etc will not draw much directly upon your SCJP kowledge.


Mark, then what one can do to overcome this problem.Is there any alternate.And yes i have another question from u here it is http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000766.html
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Originally posted by Vikrama Sanjeeva:

Mark, then what one can do to overcome this problem.Is there any alternate.


What problem? Do you mean how do you get into a CS masters program without a CS undergraduate degree? I don't know off hand, since I don't know much about graduate admissions programs. I can only offer the following.
Talk to the admissions counselors and see what they are looking for. They'll tell you the skill sets they want from non-CS majors. You might also want to look at the undergraduate curriculum, and try to learn the material on your own.
Finally, in most schools, if you can find a professor who's willing to sponsor your research, you're in, since it won't come from the dept's budget.

Was that the problem you wnated help with?

--Mark
 
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From my CS graduate study experience, I don't SCJP helps much to the CS MS program admission. The CS graduate admission checks if you have fundamental CS background. Some core courses will be important, like computer organization, computer architecture, algorithm, data structure, operating system, etc. SCJP is a certificate showing you have certain java programming skill. However, java is not a required course in many universities, some universities still teach their CS under kids C/C++ only.
some schools even require GRE computer subject test.
so, that's just my opinion. good luck.
 
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Considering my job fate, neither MS nor Java cert helps in this market. Personally I think it is better to gather as many skills ---> WebLogic/WebSphere, JMS, JSP if u need a job soon.
Or else one can keep collecting all the paper certificates ....
just my 2 cents
-- frustrated java job seeker
 
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On the question of getting into a MS CS program without having a CS undergrad degree: I've seen at least one university with a "bridge" program that prepares a person with a bachelor's degree in something other than computer science for MS CS studies. The one I just peeked a requires a bachelor's degree, four semesters of math (calculus and above), GRE, recommendations, etc. The program consists of six specific courses that cover the fundamentals. They will waive courses for stuff you already know at that level.
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