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Mark Fletcher - http://www.markfletcher.org/blog
I had some Java certs, but they're too old now...
Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
Hi,
I have this theory that its recruitment consultants are partly to blame.
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To increase their chances of filling the position, they really want to put the creme de la creme forward for the job posting. So they'll advertise for people with plenty experience.
Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
Some recruiters will even advertise requesting for experience of a period longer than a particular language has been around. For example dont be surprised if you see some recruiters advertising for C# programmers this summer who "must have two years experience". Idiots!
Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
The company I work for takes on a lot of fresh graduates. Why? Because graduates are capable people, and they're looking for people that they can mold with good skills and development habits. Also the company doesnt have to pay as much!
Originally posted by David Duran:
But the fact of the matter is that new graduates equals cheaper labor and for many established companies, graduates are what they seek. It costs them less and many of them offer on-site training classes for the inexperienced to become familiarized with the system. Not to diss on experienced people but new graduates tend to bring a "freshness" with themselves, enthusiasm, and motivation.
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
https://www.thecareertoolkitbook.com/
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
I disagree 99%! That's not to say recent grad shouldn't be hired, but they are far from cheap labor. It's well estbalished that there is an order of magnitude difference between the best programmers and worst programmers. While most studies looked at programmers in general, my hiring experience has shown recent grads have quite a lot to learn in their first few years, so they are not as productive as exerpeinced programmers, easily by a factor of 2 or 3. That's not to say they can't be, they just need the experience. So strictly from an efficency standpoint, I'd take a $120,000 senior programmer over a entry level $60,000 programmer any day, or even 2 entry level programmers. Of course there are other reasons to hire entry level people, so I still do. I just want to dispell any misconceptions.
--Mark
[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: Mark Herschberg ]
Originally posted by Jim Baiter:
What about the Microsoft approach of having a few real top notch gurus with a bunch of newbies?
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