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Evansville, Indiana, USA
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
Care to revise your statement? At least could you bring us a beer to cry in, bartender.
John Coxey
Evansville, Indiana, USA
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"If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten."
John Coxey
Evansville, Indiana, USA
Associate Instructor - Hofstra University
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"If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten."
Originally posted by John Fontana:
ava technology is unnecessarily complex for 90% of the work that businesses need.
It is the smoke-and-mirrors of Java's mystique that cost "e-businesses" immensely, when they could have used more appropriately simple solutions. Don't even get me started on EJB vs. JSP/Servlets. Each app vendor's standards are so skewed that it is necessary to have experience with specific products, and use such user-unfriendly tools like ANT.
Originally posted by John Fontana:
I do not think that Sun should be proud of the fact that it takes a CS degree to qualify for a job building shopping carts with their technology. The tools must catch up with the ease of use of other technologies, or it will remain prohibitively expensive for most companies to adopt.
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Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
Sun produces a programming language, not a tool set. It's up to other vendors to make the tools, using Java, to allow people to quickly and easily meet business needs.
--Mark
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Originally posted by John Fontana:
My criticism is of the high-end "real" programmers who implement unnecessarily complex technologies. It may be because they lack common sense, are blinded by the complexity of their own knowledge, just curious, or want to boost their resumes.
Originally posted by John Fontana:
The response: "The boss knows that .NET is good for writing web services".
Originally posted by John Fontana:
Now, Mark, help me understand, how can anyone fault a technology for being simpler to use, i.e., less expensive/more productive?
Originally posted by John Fontana:
Sun makes Forte for Java, now called Sun One Studio. It is a very popular IDE and integrates with many app servers.
Originally posted by John Fontana:
<Complaints about EJBs>
That is a major blunder on Sun's part.
There is a "Tool Time" mentality in our profession. A Gartner survey from last year said that companies overspent about $1 billion on application servers. Gartner claimed that application vendors are pushing unnecessary technology on businesses and IT departments are going along for the ride.Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
Oh my god, a bad programmer! That's gotta be a first. :-) OK, yeah, sounds like this guy did the wrong thing, but that's a user issue, not a tool issues. It sounds alot like something right out of "Tool Time."
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
There is a "Tool Time" mentality in our profession. A Gartner survey from last year said that companies overspent about $1 billion on application servers. Gartner claimed that application vendors are pushing unnecessary technology on businesses and IT departments are going along for the ride.
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