Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
That Hall of Shame is bunk. Where's Southwestern Bell?
Originally posted by Richard Brokways:
All,
I want to encourage all the US citizens to write to their congressmen concerning the H1-B fiasco. Some sample letters can be found at the following:
http://www.hireamericancitizens.org/sampleletters.html
I personally find the current situation troubling. We have tens of thousands of skilled American citizens who are unemployed while there are ten of thousands of H1-B workers working here. In the end, we can do two things - activism or hope things get better. If you choose the latter, with the ways things look now, they will get a lot worse before they get any better.
Rich
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[ August 20, 2002: Message edited by: Richard Brokways ]
[ August 20, 2002: Message edited by: Richard Brokways ]
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Originally posted by Dan Chisholm:
The success of Apache.org has proven that there is no need for an engineering team to be physically located near one another. Contributors to the Apache projects can be located here in the United States or in India. It makes no difference. Without disconnecting the rest of the world from the Internet, I don't see any way to limit whom a company hires to do work for the company. For example, if you prevent company A from importing engineers from India, then company A will just outsource the work to India and then interact with the overseas organization via the Internet. If we use immigration policy to drive engineering work overseas, then that will be where engineering work is done in the future. In the long term, I don't think that it's a good policy.
Originally posted by Dan Chisholm:
The success of Apache.org has proven that there is no need for an engineering team to be physically located near one another. Contributors to the Apache projects can be located here in the United States or in India. It makes no difference. Without disconnecting the rest of the world from the Internet, I don't see any way to limit whom a company hires to do work for the company. For example, if you prevent company A from importing engineers from India, then company A will just outsource the work to India and then interact with the overseas organization via the Internet. If we use immigration policy to drive engineering work overseas, then that will be where engineering work is done in the future. In the long term, I don't think that it's a good policy.
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Originally posted by Dan Chisholm:
The success of Apache.org has proven that there is no need for an engineering team to be physically located near one another. Contributors to the Apache projects can be located here in the United States or in India. It makes no difference. Without disconnecting the rest of the world from the Internet, I don't see any way to limit whom a company hires to do work for the company. For example, if you prevent company A from importing engineers from India, then company A will just outsource the work to India and then interact with the overseas organization via the Internet. If we use immigration policy to drive engineering work overseas, then that will be where engineering work is done in the future. In the long term, I don't think that it's a good policy.
Originally posted by Matt Kidd:
In short...just be better.
Jon Ellison<br />Java Developer at Large<br /> <br />-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----<br />Version: 3.1<br />GIT d- s: a+ C++ UA P+ L- E-- W+++ N++ o-- K- w+ O- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y<br />PGP t++ 5 X+ R-- tv++ b DI+ D-- G e++ h---- r+++ y++++<br />------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Originally posted by Jon Ellison:
For those of you familiar with Ward Cunningham's Portland Repository Wiki Web... Here is an interesting thread along the lines of this topic...
http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?InternationalOutsourcing
Interesting reading...
Jon Ellison
It's a sorry situation, but not one likely to be solved any time soon. As with all government work the data processing contract went to the low bidder.
Originally posted by Todd Sanders:
[Yawn] This topic has been discussed a lot of times at MD. Either it died naturally or was eventually closed by the moderators. [/Yawn]![]()
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Originally posted by Todd Sanders:
[Yawn] This topic has been discussed a lot of times at MD. Either it died naturally or was eventually closed by the moderators. [/Yawn]![]()
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
For a greenhorn Brockway, you pick up the way of the Java Ranch in a big hurry.
Are you wasting our time?
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
Registering a new identity to beat a dead horse is repugnant.
There's a blatant advertising forum.
If anybody's got some new point to make, I'm all ears.
This topic has been discussed a lot of times at MD.
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
And you Jason, called me on the M$ wars as being a dead issue in another thread.
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
Why does Brokway go after Todd rather than answer my constructive questions?
We've seen these URLs.
Are you or your organization knowledgable about the Freedom of Information Act? Has the Department of Labor been issued a request?
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Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
No, smoking bugleweed is not psycotropic.
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
It's like Todd said.
Now I was bashing Todd and Brockway is a fake. You can tell Brockway is a fake because of his style in quoting, the bold, the indentation, the orginally posted by ... These are clear indicators of experience.
Why does Brokway go after Todd rather than answer my constructive questions?
Why is Brockway posting statistics that are so inaccurate as to weaken his cause?
Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
There is some new development. Please take a look at http://www.h1bprotest.com and the discussions at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/htwprotest/join
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Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
I used to work at a company that had more H1-Bs than it would take to make the list. IMHO your list so under counts the number of H1-Bs out there that it seems less of a problem than you present.
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"If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten."
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"If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten."
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Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
There is some new development. Please take a look at http://www.h1bprotest.com and the discussions at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/htwprotest/join
Originally posted by Rufus Bugleweed:
I used to work at a company that had more H1-Bs than it would take to make the list. IMHO your list so under counts the number of H1-Bs out there that it seems less of a problem than you present.
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