I have MS degree in CS,over five years experience in states ( mostly in java) got three certifications:SCJP,SCWCD,SCEA I just got green card, hunting for job for more than five months, without a single direct interview, I am wondering what I can do next, SCJD? no! i have real word exprience of developing very complex java application,heavily multithread, (I have dig real deep into thread,all the thread books, all the javaworld thread articales) I don't even have a chance to talk with someone on java,btw, getting SCJD is not hard for me. i think it just will not help me landing a new job. I felt shamed that I take all the couse on OS, AI,database,network, especially compilers advanced course in school, and even can design my own language) and now it is so hard to get a position as a coder.
people can quantify human's IQ, systemized cooking food into steps,school choose its students based on GPA,SAT,GRE. being a doctor means MD degree and license and certification... but the process of hiring a programer is drastically different, experience is everything, but how to compare it, quantify it, verify it, ironically, programer are required to deal with "if then else" every day. so i can say, the process of hireing a programmer is really hard to predict. and understanding that, hope I know what need to do next.
IBM has some interesting certifications. You can write legislators and complain about accounting fraud. You can work an open source project. Hiring programmer is often who you know and not what you know. They pretty this up by calling it networking. Being in the worst bear stock market in 60 years is challenging.
Joining a local toastermaster club, and become a good public speaker might be a good goal for you. I'm serious.
posted 17 years ago
who should call the shot, experienced midwife or less experienced MD, i think midwife will be the winer if IT manager make the decision,this could not happen today in real world,since medical industry is mature enough, but not IT industry,where as long as one is lucky enough everything is possible. my former company hire someone from poland whose has only higher school degree, claim has sixteen years of experience( he count his school project experience when he is 16) and sounds like know everything Database,CGI,java, c( by showing us he can compile netscape source),....but he constantly made mistake when dealing with simple boolean logic, as long not, and , or comes together, he need to argue with other for hours after other point out his logic error, but that doesn't prevent him from talking about physics, to show that his real interest is not computer, which is not challenging enough. for those techies, his trick doesn't work, but manager has no from hard core computer science backgroud, they both hate unix, and move everthing to window. but they like java, so when the manager is promoted to VP, the polish guy acts like a manager. I would say, miracle happen to midwife, this is a typical example of how IT industry head a wrong direction, hopeful,midwife and MD guy will find the proper position where they belong.
I can understand your frustration with the job situation. I would suggest working on your communication and people skills. If you can't convey your technical knowledge to the people who are hiring, they'll never know what they're missing. Your comments on the Polish guy are irrelevant to finding a job. The office politics you are describing are present in every industry as politics are just part of the human condition. Good luck.
I agree with Ron. You can't control others you can only control yourself. If the person is really that bad soon or later they'll figure it out maybe after a $1M project haa haa good luck. Bob
Originally posted by Ron Moddesette: I can understand your frustration with the job situation. I would suggest working on your communication and people skills. If you can't convey your technical knowledge to the people who are hiring, they'll never know what they're missing. Your comments on the Polish guy are irrelevant to finding a job. The office politics you are describing are present in every industry as politics are just part of the human condition. Good luck.
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