Originally posted by Praveen Prav:
Thats just my opinion. Post your opinion.
I really appreciate it thanks.
MH
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Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
[QB]I've long been advising several of my American colleagues to consider getting their bachelors education in India as an international student. Its much much cheaper and the standard of education is somewhat similar.
MH
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
Would Americans accept it? I mean the benefit of this would be that the $30K would go entirely into savings. Rs.100000/- is a royal sum in India and people would be able to enjoy a high standard of living in India as they are in the US.
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
People like Mr. Inslee fail to see that without some type of barrier to outsourcing and companies exporting all of the jobs they can, soon the American population will have no buying power, since they have no jobs or they have to take ever less paying jobs to survive.
Originally posted by Charles Hickman:
He mentions that Indian men are egoists and introverts. They treat women like slaves.
People are very higly segregated with caste systems. And the society does not accept women if they are single.
He mentioned that People piss on the roads, cities are very unhygenic, the bus stations stink, and that In one bus there will be 100 people. He was mentioning that there will be a wait for any thing and everything. as he had to wait for 3 hours at a railway station to get tickets to madras from hyderabad.
Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
Yeah, I mean what's next the auto-industry? Textiles? Plastics? Electronics?
Can you imagine what would happen if those got outsourced? (Here's a hint: look out your window.)
--Mark
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Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
How un-American of me, to think that I can express my opinion and, oh, even oppose a trend that I think is damaging to this country's economy as a whole.
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
1)The jobs that are being outsourced now are jobs that require higher education
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
2) As a principle, I don't agree with products-only trade agreements. If jobs are going elsewhere, I should also be able to.
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
I think competition is fine, but excuse me for thinking that it should be fair. People are bearly out of school and they are finding the jobs they are going for moved out of the country.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
So what exactly is unfair? That you invested money in an education and are now being undercut? It's unfortunate, but I don't see it as unfair. Lot's of people bought internet stocks, which then tanked and they lost money. (We'll ignore cases where people were illegally mislead, because I doubt anyone made false promises to you about your college education.) Was that unfair? America gives you many promises, but a well-paying job is not one of them.
--Mark
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Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
I think there is a higher penalty for people who work in jobs that require higher education and find their jobs outsourced, since in America we have to pay for our education and it's pretty expensive.
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
I hope you understand this and stop trying to make me sound like a whiner.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
A CS major made more out of college then any other student. No one complained back then; no one asked if we were really treating employers fairly. "Free market demand is driving up salaries," they said. Well, when prices overinflate, consumers (in this case employers) will react. One option is to find a cheaper substitute (e.g. buy chicken instead of steak). In thise case, they found foreign markets instead of local ones. Perhaps if demand wasn't so great, and salaries weren't so high, then businesses wouldn't have looked for alternatives (if steak only goes up $.05 a pound, you'll probably still buy it), and foreign interests wouldn't have so aggressively assulted the US software labor market.
--Mark
i blog here: carlisia.com
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
You seem to think an individual has the same power as a company
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
During the dot com period there were plenty of employers asking (and getting) higher quotes of HB1 visas and already exporting tech jobs, so forgive me for not thinking that companies are so powerless that I need to take sides with them.
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
but I fail to see how you think a trend that moves a bunch of jobs out of a country can be good for that country and people should accept it, specially that is going to result in a lack of "in-house" technology knowledge.
Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
perhaps if the government had invested in subsidizing the education of more American IT workers, we wouldn't be dealing with such a loss of employment and companies could have their labor expense at a reasonable level.
But I think, as a whole, Americans will be better off with cheaper labor for software.
Michael
SCJP2
Originally posted by Michael Bronshteyn:
So what do you ask your employer to pay you for your services? $15/hr or so? :-)
Originally posted by Praveen Prav:
Thats just my opinion. Post your opinion.
I really appreciate it thanks.
By "different area" do you mean India? In other words, what is good for "American" companies is not always what is good for American workers or for America. Companies are international, in case you haven't noticed, so putting American workers out of work to save some money is a good thing for the CEO who owns a house in Switzerland and pays his taxes to the Cayman Islands.Originally posted by heath carlough:
And when there is growth, there will also be jobe creation even though those new jobs might be in slightly different area.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
By "different area" do you mean India?
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Originally posted by heath carlough:
But I thought the whole idea of Economic Growth was based on productivity gain (More output with the same or less input). If outsourcing to India or any other country for that matter helps save resources for companies in the US, then that means growth for them and the Economy on the whole. And when there is growth, there will also be jobe creation even though those new jobs might be in slightly different area.
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Its hard for someone who has lost a job or knows someone who has (isn't that most of us?) but in the longer run what is good for US enterprise is good for us.
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Originally posted by Carlisia Campos:
However, the most important measure of economic growth is GDP, and the growth of companies outside US does not count toward our GDP.
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
This shift has caused some instability here.. but this means that a period of stabilization is in the wings. That stabilization will come with some new initiative in technology or business which in turn will generate new employment here.
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