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Hello everybody,

I have a masters in computer science and have been looking for an entry level opening for quite some time here in USA..I was mainly looking for java openings but today i got an offer for a mainframe job ..The job needed a long term commitement of around 3 to 4 years.i heard that many companies are phasing out mainframes.so,would it be wise of me to take this offer or should i just pass it and wait for a java opening..
Any help will be greatly appreciated ..
Thanks
-Ramaa
 
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Are they going to give you a 3 or 4 year contract or are they hiring you for an at will position? There must be a zillion old mainframes looking for a job, any job. Why won't they hire one of them. I'll tell you. It's because old-timers already know the hide the sausage game. I'd be very leery of this company.
 
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If you don't have any job, take the job which is offered, if you don't mind spending time learning mainframe instead of writing java code. Unless they give you 3-4 years contract ( I personally doubt it, too long for a contract work ), you should not see it as commitment. If you are a full time ( whatever it means in current economy ) they can send you out on the street any time they find convinient.
 
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Originally posted by Ramaa Khanna:
Hello everybody,

I have a masters in computer science and have been looking for an entry level opening for quite some time here in USA..I was mainly looking for java openings but today i got an offer for a mainframe job ..The job needed a long term commitement of around 3 to 4 years.i heard that many companies are phasing out mainframes.so,would it be wise of me to take this offer or should i just pass it and wait for a java opening..
Any help will be greatly appreciated ..
Thanks
-Ramaa


Hi Ramaa,
Snoop around to see the company do any conversion. Why they bring you in when you only know Java per se? Offers are hard to come by nowaday. Play it wisely.
Regards,
MCao
 
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If you're in the USA then employment is at will. They can't make you stay for 3-4 years. Take the job and keep looking for something more applicable while you're there. If you think that sounds ruthless, try going through a merger sometime and see how quickly they get rid of employees (definitely no 3-4 year commitment there).

Originally posted by Ramaa Khanna:
Hello everybody,

I have a masters in computer science and have been looking for an entry level opening for quite some time here in USA..I was mainly looking for java openings but today i got an offer for a mainframe job ..The job needed a long term commitement of around 3 to 4 years.i heard that many companies are phasing out mainframes.so,would it be wise of me to take this offer or should i just pass it and wait for a java opening..
Any help will be greatly appreciated ..
Thanks
-Ramaa

 
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Thanks everybody for your thoughts..it was helpfull.
-Ramaa
 
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Originally posted by Ramaa Khanna:
Hello everybody,

I have a masters in computer science and have been looking for an entry level opening for quite some time here in USA..I was mainly looking for java openings but today i got an offer for a mainframe job ..The job needed a long term commitement of around 3 to 4 years.i heard that many companies are phasing out mainframes.so,would it be wise of me to take this offer or should i just pass it and wait for a java opening..
Any help will be greatly appreciated ..
Thanks
-Ramaa


Here's the real scoop : mainframes aren't going away soon. Nothing else has the computational power needed for certain tasks. Large Banks and credit card companies will be using them for a long time. They're also teaching mainframes new tricks such as Java or Object Oriented Cobol, but don't count on it. COBOL is still used in government jobs as well, but its not a language of the future. As pointed out by Rufus, there are lots of unemployed mainframers, why don't they hire them???
If you need a job take it, I wouldn't hold my breath on Java jobs right now.
 
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Hi,
The last time I heard something about COBOL was from Orange County of Southern California, they fired all COBOL programmers and shifted the IT to consulting firm running Object-Oriented COBOL. The consultants had been forced to learn Java. The mainframe already been converted as file server ages ago. The database package intended to use was Oracle.

Cheers,
MCao
 
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Originally posted by Matt Cao:
Hi,
The last time I heard something about COBOL was from Orange County of Southern California, they fired all COBOL programmers and shifted the IT to consulting firm running Object-Oriented COBOL. The consultants had been forced to learn Java. The mainframe already been converted as file server ages ago. The database package intended to use was Oracle.

Cheers,
MCao


Plenty of mainframes doing batch transaction processing every night. SouthTrust and Union Planters, are two large banks I know using mainframes and COBOL (unless they have changed in the last 5 years). First Data (FDR) is another huge financial processing company doing processing for multiple credit card companies. Then I remember there was this bank in Brazil, the largest in the world in terms of account holders, using a mainframe, etc,etc. IBM is still churning out the mainframes and people are still buying them. They'll be here for a while more...
 
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