[poll] Bush says unemployed tech workers must re-train

[Kevin Arnold]

A reporter asked him if he plans to do anything about the unemployment caused by the flight of tech jobs overseas. He said those affected would have to re-train, we would help them by providing financial assistance for re-trainining. Only a Republican can talk like that. Consider the Democrats. Clinton had a wayward willy but his heart was in the right place. He would never say something like this.
If you had to re-train what profession would you choose?

I had always wanted to be a lumberjack

[Timothy Chen Allen]

Originally posted by Kevin Arnold:
If you had to re-train what profession would you choose?

Here's my list:

Trucker

Rock and roll star

Cabin boy

Hobo

Pillsbury Dough Boy

Infomercial actor

Envelope stuffer/pen assembler

Bag lady

Disgruntled postal worker

CEO of Microsoft

I think I'm all set. Bring on the training money!

[Richard Hawkes]

That's the free-market for you!
I wanna be a coke-snorting, ganja puffing, babe-stroking death metal guitarist. Who wants to be in my band?
Failing that, a top-class chef.
Originally posted by Kevin Arnold:
I had always wanted to be a lumberjack "... suspenders and a braaaa!!!"

[Paul Stevens]

Originally posted by Richard Hawkes:

Originally posted by Kevin Arnold:
[qb]I had always wanted to be a lumberjack "... suspenders and a braaaa!!!"[/QB]

He's a lumberjack and he's ok.

[Billy Tsai]

retrain for the secret service or the FBI

[Thomas Paul]

I heard Jennifer Lopez has a nipple tweaker on call. How about that job?

[Randall Twede]

retrain as what? a janitor? a burger flipper? a pizza delivery person? soon the middle class will be nothing more than a story that old people tell.

[jason adam]

Originally posted by Randall Twede:
retrain as what?

A politician, apparently they'll let anyone have the job

[Cindy Glass]

So what exactly did all the computer programmers tell all those factory workers that lost their jobs as robots and computerized assembly lines cam in and took those jobs?
Those guys had no magic other way to earn a living either. Essentially the programmers got jobs by putting factory workers out of a job.
It is not fun to be on the receiving side of that situation - but it is silly to sit around and moan about it. It is simple supply and demand.

[Michael Ernest]

I want to be the All-Being Master of Space, Time and Dimension. Then I want to go to Europe.

[Frank Silbermann]

Kevin Arnold: A reporter asked (Bush) if he plans to do anything about the unemployment caused by the flight of tech jobs overseas.
I saw this discussed on the Jobs Discussion board. Someone quoted the question, and it was not about tech jobs going overseas, but about jobs in general, mainly those of "people worried about their jobs being replaced by technology." Not insecure high-tech workers. (Someone should have asked that, but they didn't.)
Only a Republican can talk like that. Except that Bush didn't talk like that. Only a Democrat can manufacture a false context for someone else's quote in order to slander him.
Clinton had a wayward willy but his heart was in the right place. He would never say something like this. Neither would Bush. Nor did he. And I disagree about Clinton's heart being in the right place. (I think he's a sociopath.)

[Mark Spritzler]

Clinton had a wayward willy but his heart was in the right place.

Which place was this? Monica Lewinsky's
Mark

[jason adam]

Originally posted by Frank Silbermann:
Only a Democrat can manufacture a false context for someone else's quote in order to slander him.

Not a Democrat or a Republican, but this comment just strikes me as someone who is incredibly naive to think that only one end of the social order would fabricate statements to slander someone else. Think a bit before slinging mud at those who were slinging mud.

[Derek Grey]

Opportunity to retrain oneself???...How about retraining to be the President of USA....hopefully that should be the last job to be offshored/outsourced

[Damien Howard]

Opportunity to retrain oneself???...How about retraining to be the President of USA....hopefully that should be the last job to be offshored/outsourced

Well with the job Bush is doing it might be a good idea to outsource his job.

[Michael Ernest]

Goes against company policy.
Those bastards at the top. Always one step ahead...

[Damien Howard]

It's a living document, we can change it.
Besides why should the President have to be US born?
The people who created this country were immigrants.
Many people who contribute to the wealth and power of this country are immigrants.
I for one wasn't born here, but I've lived virtually my whole life here, and yet I can't be president, but morons like Bush can.

[Richard Hawkes]

Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Goes against company policy.
Interesting the minimum age for the office of President is 35. 14 years as a resident is a strange number to choose too. I wonder why not 10, 15 or 20 years?

... neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States

[Ashok Mash]

From the link : The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription
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The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.
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I didn't know the word 'choose' is spelt that way in American english. (Just to be sure, its not a typo, or is it?)
Ashok.

[Donald R. Cossitt]

but morons like Bush can.

Are you an expert on morons?
Let's see, in the 18th century we had two presidents: Washington & Jefferson; we had one in the 19th: Lincoln; and two in the 20th: T. Roosevelt and Reagan and one outright traitor: Clinton. The rest mere footnotes by comparison.
Only three years into the 21st - patience, patience.

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Donald R. Cossitt:
Let's see, in the 18th century we had two presidents: Washington & Jefferson;

Jessferson was president from 1801-1809. that makes hima 19th century president.

[Jim Yingst]

Doco, are you listing presidents you think are morons? Or something else? Can't tell really...
[Ashok]: I didn't know the word 'choose' is spelt that way in American english. (Just to be sure, its not a typo, or is it?)
It isn't spelled that way nowadays, but evidently it was (for some people at least) back when the Constitution was written. English spelling was still in the process of being standardized at this time; that's a primary reason why US and UK spellings are different, and there was no standard (for some issues at least) at the time the two separated.

[Michael Ernest]

I think Donald's point is that rather few of our presidents were remarkable in any way. Certainly Bush isn't the first elected to be less than great in promise or performance.
Clinton was not, by any legal standard availablem a traitor to his country. But if that's the only way Republicans can handle getting their asses handed to them for a decade, then that's the way it's going to be.
Now if we could just find a smart Democrat who isn't quite so horny...

[Paul McKenna]

Originally posted by Michael Ernest:

Now if we could just find a smart Democrat who isn't quite so horny...

Joe Liebermann for 2004

[Jason Menard]

Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
But if that's the only way Republicans can handle getting their asses handed to them for a decade, then that's the way it's going to be.

Eight years does not a decade make. Now twelve years... like say from 1980-1992... that passes the decade threshold. True those were an unremarkable twelve years - just the winning of the cold war, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall, the liberation of Kuwait. Mere footnotes in history to be sure.
But hey after that we had eight wonderful years of Presidential whoring, decimation of national defense, overseas misadventures, and the fostering of an economy that supported the Dot Com Bubble and Corporate cooking of the books on an unprecedented scale (Enron et al). Whew, what a great ride that was! :roll:

Now if we could just find a smart Democrat who isn't quite so horny...

And by using "Democrat" and "smart" in the same sentence, you must mean "smart enough not to get caught"?
[ August 03, 2003: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Clinton was not, by any legal standard availablem a traitor to his country. But if that's the only way Republicans can handle getting their asses handed to them for a decade, then that's the way it's going to be.

Could you refresh my memory... did Clinton get a majority of the popular vote in 1992? For some reason I think he might not have.

[Randall Twede]

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

i can understand the reasoning behind this. it is intended to ensure that the president has only this countries interests in mind. obviously the resoning was flawed. :roll:

[Frank Silbermann]

Michael Ernest: Clinton was not, by any legal standard available a traitor to his country.
Agreed. That's why he never faced a firing squad. When people say he was a traitor, they mean it only in the moral sense.
(They're probably referring to things like giving away long-range missile technology to China in exchange for laundered illegal campaign contributions, or his efforts to strip the people of freedoms for which their ancestors died, e.g. the right [as distinct from a mere privilege] to keep and bear arms.)

[Tim Holloway]

Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
So what exactly did all the computer programmers tell all those factory workers that lost their jobs as robots and computerized assembly lines cam in and took those jobs?
Those guys had no magic other way to earn a living either. Essentially the programmers got jobs by putting factory workers out of a job.
It is not fun to be on the receiving side of that situation - but it is silly to sit around and moan about it. It is simple supply and demand.

Actually, I told them the same thing the government did. We're now an Information Society - the future is in technology!
Ooops.

[Tim Holloway]

Originally posted by Ashok Krishnan:
From the link : The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription
..................
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The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.
..................
..................
I didn't know the word 'choose' is spelt that way in American english. (Just to be sure, its not a typo, or is it?)
Ashok.

Becaufe [sic] back then, we had "free market" spelling. Standardized spelling is a fairly recent occurrence. And, of course, some of THAT depends on whether you follow Webster or the Queen.
Also changed since then were the removal of two letters from the alphabet - the "long S" that looks like an "f" (e.g. "In Congreff affembled") and the letter "thorn", which was pronounced "th" - to wit: "Ye kinge is a finke". Final silent "e"s mostly went away as well - they were a legacy from when the finale e wasn't silent.
The language also dropped the formal pronouns (ye, thee, thou) and gained a few new words like Internet and "nukuler", er "nuclear".

[Donald R. Cossitt]

Well I will have to hand it to Clinton for the following:
He made Harry S for nothing Truman look decisive
He made Eisenhauer look even more the giant than he was
He made Kennedy look moral
He made Johnson look truthfull
He made Nixon look honest
He made Ford look like an athlete
He made Carter look competent
He took credit for the Reagan years
He made HW Bush look like a foreign policy genius

(all the ones I lived through so far)
Other than that I cannot think of one solitary issue that I should be glad for the Clinton years other than they are over until the next limp-wristed, bed-wetting, whinning liberal gets elected: Hillary, Lieberman, Gore??? God help us!

[jason adam]

Tell us how you really feel

[Jim Yingst]

"Ye kinge is a finke".
To clarify - "Ye" was really supposed to be "Þe" where Þ is the thorn character, still available in Latin-1 and Unicode as 0x00DE. Unfortunately many printing presses didn't have a proper Þ symbol so often Y was used instead.
Final silent "e"s mostly went away as well - they were a legacy from when the finale e wasn't silent.
Except for the ones that we imported from France or thereabouts, e.g. in "face" or "sale". I think these e's were always silent; and most of them remain in the language today.

[shay Aluko]

Originally posted by Donald R. Cossitt:
Well I will have to hand it to Clinton for the following:
He made Harry S for nothing Truman look decisive
He made Eisenhauer look even more the giant than he was
He made Kennedy look moral
He made Johnson look truthfull
He made Nixon look honest
He made Ford look like an athlete
He made Carter look competent
He took credit for the Reagan years
He made HW Bush look like a foreign policy genius
(all the ones I lived through so far)
Other than that I cannot think of one solitary issue that I should be glad for the Clinton years other than they are over until the next limp-wristed, bed-wetting, whinning liberal gets elected: Hillary, Lieberman, Gore??? God help us!

I am tired of these republican yahoos cluttering up this board. This a job discussion board. If you had half a brain you would put your rubbish on the meaningless drivel board. I feel sorry for you cos you have to live with yourself everyday

[shay Aluko]

And by the way for you clinton-haters ouut there, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Volumes of text can be dedicated to the infidelities and dishonest behaviour of your republican heroes but i don't expect you to be honest enough to acknowledge that. After all you are republicans.

[Frank Silbermann]

If you don't want to hear Clinton bashed on a jobs board, then don't praise him there. If you don't want to hear Bush defended on a jobs board, then don't insult him there.
This isn't a university liberal arts / social sciences classroom where only one side gets free speech.