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Are the "other" IT roles like Admin/technician/DBA doing better?

 
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Ok i've been hearing a lot about outsourcing of "development" projects.
I was wondering if those in other IT fields like networking/cabling/security/troubleshooting are in a better position. Or, are those roles also saturated?
 
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From my experience, those positions cannot be easily oustourced to India, for the simple reason that organizations would still prefer to have their data and infrastructure in the US. There will be some consolidation in those types of positions for sure and since everyone will focus on those as a type of "safe haven", there will downward pressure on salaries etc.
 
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network,system admins and dba kinds of jobs are not easy to obtain either because they all need experience too, i have applied for a junior dba position but i got declined and a desktop support job and they just ignored me
 
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Yesterday's Sunday want ads posted a new low. Of the few "computer" jobs listed, all were for people to drive in and install equipment or for people to instruct users. No software jobs whatsoever.
Actually, however, the overall job market around here these 2 years past for network people has made the software job market look good. A local mortgage company was Cisco's "poster company" in the 2001 annual report. Since then they've advertised for not a single computer position of any stripe.
I've already rendered my worst-case future scenario, which is to use BPO for as much back-office work as possible and to replace the current cantankerous and insecure PC setup with network workstations that can be wired together by untrained monkeys. Mark H. isn't as pessimistic, but I figure than any alleged civilization that will submit to some of the insults offered by the "bargain" megastores (Strip-search at the door, please! We don't want you to keep us from offering Lower Prices Everyday by possibly being a shoplifter, now, do we?) will try just about enything to save $.05.
In fact, our best hope against that is that much of the PC revolution was about having data under one's own personal control, so how likely that particular Brave New World is, depends on who wins the war between the penny-pinchers and the control freaks.
 
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I've carved out a hopfully secure little niche with a small ( less than 75 people) company as the "IT Department". Doing Network Admin/Systems Admin (Linux,Solaris,Windows)/Programming (Java,C++)/DBA (MySQL, Oracle)
It wasn't an advertised position. I was working with them on a programming project and pitched the idea of molding all of these tasks that were currently being contracted out into one MeCentric position. They're happy. I'm happy. Pays 80K in the SF Bay Area. Which is pretty OK in this post boom economy. I think one of the safer places these days is in smaller companies. The more diverse and solid your skill set is the better you'll do.
 
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Hi,
What you create is a technical side, try to carry it over the business operations side. You will be more valuable than you are now. With an 75 people IT dept, I think your company is not small. When you are ready, ask for advanced education or additional certs beside techie ones. You then will be safe with the company. Even when the company fold, with the profile like that, other company happy to have you on board too.
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MCao
 
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