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Jeya Balaji
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Hi friends,
Not sure if this is the right forum to discuss about web hosts.
I am searching some web space to place my jsp applications. After a brief surfing, I got couple of hosts. I have took some notes and placed at
web host chart
If you have some experience with these host, please share with me. Any other tips for choosing a host are welcome.
Thanks,
Balaji
 
Frank Carver
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There sure are a lot more JSP hosts available than the few you mention. And you seem to have chosen some of the most expensive, too! I recmmend you do a lot of google searches looking for words like "servlet", "hosting", "java", "oracle"
and anything else appropriate. Don't stop until you have notes on at least 20 different hosting operators.
I'm surprised that you reckon you need 75-100MB of data space, but don't mention your bandwidth needs. In my experience bandwith is much more expensive and in much shorter supply than disk space. You also don't seem interested in which version of Java VM, which servlet/JSP container, and (very important) which versions of the Servlet and JSP APIs are supported. Don't get suckered into paying for obsolete server software.
As an aside, you ask a lot of other interesting questions on that page. Are you going to ask any of them at the JavaRanch? I'd love to help you get your design straight for that Person stuff, and have some ideas which may make your musings about bean properties and Maps easier to get to grips with.
 
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I've been with mmaweb.net for a couple of years now and couldn't be happier.
Not super-cheap at $50 per month, but they have a lower cost option if you don't mind a shared VM.
hth,
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Kevin Thompson
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Bear,
What advice can you give me - for this issue =>
My worries about a web hosting provider for JSP/Servlets can be summed up as this one question ==>
How do I know where to put my stuff?
Background Story:
I know how to run JSP/Servlets on my own computer here at home. No problem. I have had my own domain for years (just using the basics HTML and CSS). No problem.
But with a new JSP web hosting service how do I know where to put things? I have looked at all the sites recently mentioned here, like:
www.mmaweb.com
www.myservlethosting.com
www.ejip.net
www.wantjava.com
but I don't see anything about instructions to install/deploy?
Where are instructions to get my own jsp/servelts running - WHEN USING A WEB HOSTING SERVICE?
Something like:
Step One: do this...
Step Two: do this...
Step Three: do this..
???
thanks!
Kevin
 
Frank Carver
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It's actually very simple, but depends a little on how the hosting company have their machines configured. All the hosting companies I have dealt with have made this easy, and usually provide an introductory email, a support FAQ or a "readme" file in your directory space to tell you the precise steps.
Typically it might be as follows:
  • connect to the server using FTP (the hosting company should provide you with an account name and password)
  • trawl around the directories under your "home directory" until you find where the web applications live (typically called "webapps", may be in a directory called "tomcat" or whatever.)
  • transfer either your whole web application directory structure or just the "war" file.
  • log off FTP


  • Depending on the servlet container and the nature of your web applications, you may also need to restart the container. The hosting company will usually provide you with a shell script to do this, either in your home directory, or maybe a tomcat/bin directory or something. Log on using telnet or ssh, and look for a file called "restart", "restart.sh", "bounce.sh" or something like that. Run it by typing (for example "./restart.sh".
     
    Jeya Balaji
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    Hi Bear, Thanks for the suggestion. Ur msg will be really helpful for me to decide.
    Frank, really happy with your warm hospitality. I would love to get help from you (regarding the design). Shall I tidy up the page and start a clean ground for the discussion?
    Meanwhile, let me browse the web further and get more host info.
    True, there are cheaper services, but mostly they offer MySql. Earlier experience with Mysql suggests me to go for other db. Subselect is a major handi-cap I find in Mysql. Ofcourse, many more missing concepts like triggers, stored proc, transactions ...
    Considering the nature of application (genealogy), I thought the traffic will be moderate. So, a default bandwidth should be ok. hmmm, I should also confess that, without prior knowledge with hosting websites, I am yet to learn these parameters, requirements, tuning etc.
    About the version, except at wantjava.com, others have recent jsp, servlet versions. I guess I need to mention that explicitly.
    Thanks for your help.
    Regards,
    Balaji
     
    Kevin Thompson
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    Frank, thanks for the info!
    But I still have a worry item: What is "telnet" or "ssh". (I don't really know UNIX - which I think is what you are talking about?)
    What jsp web hosting service do you recommend? Here is what I am trying to do:
    For my own domain, I wanted to be able to display what I know. Show that I know how to use some JSP and some Servlets. Maybe some simple stuff using MySQL.
    The people using my site will be people who have my resume in their hand. I will tell them on my resume to go to my site - to see my code and see my work in action. I am not selling things or setting up a business for a customer. My whole point is just to show hiring people what I know how to do.
    Also, I absolutely positively have to have access to an outgoing SMTP mail server.
    Currently, I use the free ws_ftp_le software for updating my domain(with my non JSP web hosting service)
    thanks,
    Kevin
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    This one is good. http://www.eatj.com
     
    It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
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