what's different between your book and Pro JSP from Apress?

[Axel Janssen]

Hi,
umh. don't know if its nice to hear as one of the first questions about the lovely competitors, but can you tell us where's difference in focus of your book and the one from apress? Which one would you buy?
Axel

[Jeroen Wenting]

Not having read this book (but owning and having fully digested an earlier imprint of the APress book (then under the Wrox brand)) I can tell you what that one is all about:
The APress book is less a learning book about JSP (though it can serve as such) and more a selection of case studies and an explanation (at a somewhat higher level) of the technologies at your disposal (explained in the context of those case studies).

[Ko Ko Naing]

Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
The APress book is less a learning book about JSP (though it can serve as such) and more a selection of case studies and an explanation (at a somewhat higher level) of the technologies at your disposal (explained in the context of those case studies).

In this case, I agree with Jeroen that APress book are like Wrox and their books are very attracted to experienced people... It may be called a reference book... One more thing is that Pro JSP is not written by only one person... That's why the explanation in the book won't be in the same tone... But if you used to like Wrox style, then Pro JSP is right for you... :roll:
But I'm doubting that that book was recommended to be used as a preparation book for SCWCD Beta Exam by Kathy Sierra... I'm wondering why she doesn't recommend JavaServer Pages by Mr.Bergsten(I'm not trying to make the book in promotion less popular...Sorry, Mr.Bergsten ) Cos I do believe that there will be some advantages in Mr.Bergsten book, comparing with Pro JSP book...

[Hans Bergsten]

Originally posted by Axel Janssen:
Hi,
umh. don't know if its nice to hear as one of the first questions about the lovely competitors, but can you tell us where's difference in focus of your book and the one from apress? Which one would you buy?
Axel

Axel,
Sorry, but I haven't read the Pro JSP book, so I hope others can give you a comparison. In general, though, my book is a bit different than most other JSP books I've read in that it starts with (Part I and II) a focus on JSP and JSTL, and what you can do without writing a line of Java code (I don't use and scripting elements except in one chapter dedicated to the subject), and then illustrates how you can use servlets and other technologies when needed at the end (Part III). Most other books assumes that all readers are hardcore Java programmers and starts with servlets and move on to describe JSP as a way to develop the View part only. Some peole prefer my approach, others prefer the other.

[Zach Lee]

Well, if you want to learn JSP, get this book. I own a copy of the first edition of this book. From time to time, I still find myself going back to the book for reference. Maybe it's time for a free upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.

[Hans Bergsten]

Originally posted by Zach Lee:
Well, if you want to learn JSP, get this book. I own a copy of the first edition of this book. From time to time, I still find myself going back to the book for reference. Maybe it's time for a free upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.

Zach,
Thanks for the endorsement. I'm afraid it's not up to me to give away "free upgrades", but if you're lucky, you may win a copy of the 3rd edition here at JavaRanch.

[Nicholas Cheung]

I think it is difficult for a publisher to provide free upgrade, if the book is popular, and the technologies change rapidly. Then, basically, the book is a long-life asset.
I also have the 2nd edition of this book, but the new edition covers more on new features, such as EL, JSTL and Tags.
Nick.

[Zach Lee]

Thanks for the endorsement. I'm afraid it's not up to me to give away "free upgrades", but if you're lucky, you may win a copy of the 3rd edition here at JavaRanch.

I was just joking around...and of course hoping to win a free book Who knows, maybe I will be lucky this one time.
It's been a pleasure to be able to chat with you here.
Regards,
Zack