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Sadanand Murthy
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Now, this is news. What kind of qualifications do they have to do this?
 
Steven Broadbent
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Read something similar recently about British banks that had outourced call centres to India. Was our data safe? Was it kept according to Data protection laws? The answer as far as I can remember was
"Er, we don't know....."
 
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"Er, we don't know....."
Colin Powell said the same thing when asked whether they'd have gone into Iraq had they known there were no weapons.
 
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
"Er, we don't know....."
Colin Powell said the same thing when asked whether they'd have gone into Iraq had they known there were no weapons.

More or less. Perhaps 'we' would have substituted another of the terrible three. Iran possibly. Does Kuwait share a border with Iran? Perhaps Iraq would have granted passage rights....
Before crowing too loudly about how we were right people should consider how often forecasts about nations developing WMD's have been wrong.....
Which is invariably. The timing of every single entry to the nuclear 'club' has come as a complete surprise. The USSR, China, India (twice), Pakistan. North Korea we're unsure about but it was a surprise nonetheless. Libya's progress came as a big surprise, as did Iran's.
In that context the Iraq 'failure' is unsurprising. In hindsight that is. Perhaps the conclusion should be that if our intelligence is capable of detecting a nuke program before the first test it's a result of disinformation (aka lies)?
Edit: I just realize that I've gone criminally off-topic. But instead of deleting this post I shall endeavor to bring it back on-topic instead.
Given the expense and effectiveness of western intelligence agencies has anyone considered outsourcing their work to India? Surely if we entrust our health to Wipro we can trust them to do intelligence analysis as well?

[ February 10, 2004: Message edited by: Don Stadler ]
 
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Hi,
This is one of the examples why I mentioned before evaluation jobs cannot be outsourced.
Real estate is very regulate industry, it used to be a lot of rooms to manipulate such that company built extra buildings without a single wall inside and no utilities access inside the building but claimed as business expenses and write-off at the end of fiscal year. It also allowed negative cash flow, but company still made profit in the end.
If you want to do appraise US property,
1. you must have license from state that property physical located, if the property is belong to chain of property spreading several states, then you need federal license.
2. you must have proper education and cert, you are a trainee appraiser. Advance education and field experiences, you will qualify applying for higher level such as certified appraiser. More educations, more experiences, and participate as active member in industry organizations, you will qualify applying for general appraiser.
3. you are also the subject of court testify. Talk about lawyers scrutinies.
It is hard work, but paid off in comparison to technical jobs.
Yes, one thing the outsource outfits could do is creating an automation process for the appraisers.
I don't know how many times I keep mention about programmer needs to learn user side knowledge to a tee and know businesses too. Whenever I mention the word business someone always think of accounting or finance. There 80% of your capitalist society to strive upon. Accounting and Finance are just merely 2 industries. It is no irrational decision when someone join your company but from the user side, that person soon will end up as your superior/someone who could make you take orders.
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MCao
 
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Perhaps the surest way to kill any industry is to offshore it.
Exxons Accounts.
 
Jason Cox
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I just kind of chuckle when I think of people who tell me "I'm not in IT, so off-shoring doesn't affect me".
 
Matt Cao
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Hi,
Nobody lives alone on an island of global economy. If outsource directly affects me, I will do something about it. I will not whine on keyboard all days long. This is a major election year in US. Is job outsource to overseas become an issue yet? Is is forming a platform for opponent parties yet? Bush is a pro-overseas outsourcing because there is a half page new about it on LA Times today. He wants blue collar and white collar jobs or anything not falling into comparative advantage will be done overseas. I recognize two white collar professions programming and radiologist.
The reason why outsourcing is such a hot topic on this and other IT jobs related websites because sorrow loves party as long as other members are worser than you - PSYCH 101.

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Jason Cox
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If we eliminate outsourcing completely, we'll lose out in the end.
If we do a "race to the bottom" we'll tank our economy since no one's job will be safe and consumer confidence will drop like a rock.
One thing that always bugs me about the US. We always have to take it to extremes and mess things up royally before we figure out how to do it right. We weren't always like this, where did we go wrong?
I keep hoping some common sense will kick in and a balance will be achieved. With companies defending rampant outsourcing on one side and people screaming for protectionism on the other, I don't see much hope of a balance being struck without some serious harm being done first.
 
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Exxons Accounts.

Or even Enron's Accounts.
 
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Originally posted by Rob Aught:

One thing that always bugs me about the US. We always have to take it to extremes and mess things up royally before we figure out how to do it right. We weren't always like this, where did we go wrong?
I keep hoping some common sense will kick in and a balance will be achieved. With companies defending rampant outsourcing on one side and people screaming for protectionism on the other, I don't see much hope of a balance being struck without some serious harm being done first.

If no companies are listening to the people's cries for protectionism, let the serious harm be done as soon as possible then, so that change for the better of the US economy and it's people will also come after.
[ February 10, 2004: Message edited by: Justine Jade ]
 
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Originally posted by Rob Aught:
I keep hoping some common sense will kick in and a balance will be achieved. With companies defending rampant outsourcing on one side and people screaming for protectionism on the other, I don't see much hope of a balance being struck without some serious harm being done first.

A free, competitive marketplace is not a tranquil one. Interests collide, figuratively speaking. That's the way it is.
 
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One word - sabotage. I suggest that outsourcing prove ineffective. This cannot be obvious, but non-cooperation may be the way to go for US workers.
 
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