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Hi all
I saw somebody ask how about the IT in China now.So,are u interested in it?
Let me introduce for u,I think it's a good example myself.
I'm a java programmer with three years' experience,SCJP and maybe SCJD next month(hope so ),my major job is to develop e-business for Shanghai bus group,my salary is about 6k RMB per month.I'v never go abord,foreigner's salary is higher than Chinese here,and salary level is different in each city,there is more IT chance in Beijing.Now I settled here and work from 9:00AM to 6:00PM everyday.Holiday is few,not like Europe.You can find a good house if you pay 1k RMB per month,food is not expensive here,I pay 15RMB on food everyday,and the taste is good,it's Chinese food .Trafic is not very good if you work at the center of the city,but Pudong in Shanghai is good.Trafic fee is not expensive,I pay 10RMB on traffic fee everyday because I live so far from the center of the city and I work at the center of the city .By the way the salary 6kRMB includes tax,it's more than 5k when corp give u salary,and 1USD equals 8.xRMB.That's all.Welcome to China
 
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Thanks!.What is procedure for applying for job in China?6000/8=$750 per/month.I think Indian/Chinese salaries are in same range.Do I need to learn Chinese before coming to China?
Thanks
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Even though I speak Chinese, my technical vocabulary set is in English 99%. Therefore, I have great difficulty communicating with Developers if they talk the business in Chinese. For example, even if you know "Singleton" inside out, you won't know what a developer is talking about if she says it in Chinese.
Of course, I think in general programmers worldwide know technical English much better than other professions for an obvious reason. Afterall, you can't code in Chinese, can you? In that sense, you can just learn every day Chinese but keep on talking technical terms in English. You will do just fine. Sometimes, people there would like to talk to you in English.
If you can't understand them, train them to understand you.
 
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Jian,
Can you post China IT-job web-site here ?
thanks
 
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Your salary looks consistent with ComputerWorld's Salary Comparison Report on April 28, 2003.
Based on that article, the average salary for a systems programmer in the U.S. is $63,331, and it's $8,952 in China.
[ March 10, 2004: Message edited by: Sunny Dai ]
 
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Also don't forget that chinese RMB is seen as highly undervalued.
 
jian zheng
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Hi all,
I don't know the official job seek web site in China,but I usually visit "http://www.51job.com"; and it has the english version "http://www.51job.com/default-e.php?from=inner"; maybe you can try this.
I'm sorry I don't know the details about the apply procedure.Many Chinese IT guys go to USA,Canada,Australia,Singapor...but few foreign IT guys come to China,so I'm more familiar with how to go abroad.The most result that few people would like to work in China may be the language here is not English .I'll search this information(I mean apply procedure) in my spare time and post here later.
I think the best way is the company you are serving now has branch in China,and you can apply for a position in the branch of China.This way,you can take the same or higher salary but enjoy the colorful but not expensive life in China for a long time .Any ideas?
Best Regards!
Jian
 
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jina,
Thanks for the web info.

Originally posted by jian zheng:
Hi all,
I don't know the official job seek web site in China,but I usually visit "http://www.51job.com"; and it has the english version "http://www.51job.com/default-e.php?from=inner"; maybe you can try this.
I'm sorry I don't know the details about the apply procedure.Many Chinese IT guys go to USA,Canada,Australia,Singapor...but few foreign IT guys come to China,so I'm more familiar with how to go abroad.The most result that few people would like to work in China may be the language here is not English .I'll search this information(I mean apply procedure) in my spare time and post here later.
I think the best way is the company you are serving now has branch in China,and you can apply for a position in the branch of China.This way,you can take the same or higher salary but enjoy the colorful but not expensive life in China for a long time .Any ideas?
Best Regards!
Jian

 
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Hi all,
The general way to work in Shanghai is to find a company to employ you first,and this company will apply foreigner employee's card for you.You can start your new career when you got the card.You can regist and search on web site mentioned upon(51job)
Hope this helpful!
Best Regards!
Jian
 
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