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Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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So employers will have either to cheat for another visa opportunity (GC / L) or to train presently unemployed US IT professionnals, but IMHO this is no answer at all : cheating with law always leads to trouble one day or another, and it takes many years to train a basic programmer into a software architect or alike, mainly because no one will pay him for training long as so many immediately productive although less qualified workers are so widely available.
leader companies for strategical JDO & ERP fields are french & german respectively, not US companies
Mike Gershman
SCJP 1.4, SCWCD in process
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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if you check my certifications below I hope you will estimate I won't steal any US job for such skills seem really lacking in US
Mike Gershman
SCJP 1.4, SCWCD in process
H-1B visa limit for 2005 already reached
Prakash Dwivedi (SCJP2, SCWCD, SCBCD)
"Failure is not when you fall down, Its only when you don't get up again"
Prakash,
How many times have you been to US?
Prakash Dwivedi (SCJP2, SCWCD, SCBCD)
"Failure is not when you fall down, Its only when you don't get up again"
Thanks, Eric, for making my case. Only when the H1B visa route is closed will US companies retrain unemployed US workers.
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But unless employers can't get cheap foreign labour they'll not hire the more expensive locals unless the US government steps in with subsidies for retraining unemployed on the job
Mike Gershman
SCJP 1.4, SCWCD in process
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Kishore
SCJP, blog
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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Originally posted by Eric Lemaitre:
US investors need talentuous aliens for making profits, aliens being fairly rewarded for it, The initiatives I think about for fixing present situation are :
new visa with real government control for really quallified aliens applying for jobs US natives can't fullfill even after training skill upgrade, or potential enterpreners.
MH
Originally posted by Mike Gershman:
Retraining alone is no answer. US employers are requiring several years of paid j2ee experience, not just knowledge and certification. These same companies just require a good degree in their Asian branches. After a few years, the Asian employees have the experience in new technologies required for US jobs.
As for retraining existing employees, many companies are dumping their middle-aged legacy programmers rather than employ a j2ee newbie at a senior programmer salary.
Subsidized training is not the answer. Many programmers learn j2ee on their own and get certified at their own expense, but they can't manufacture paid j2ee experience. There is no substitute for restricting H-1B and similar visas to jobs that can't be filled by US people even with a reasonable learning curve, if there are such jobs.
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
When the person can be called talented? so that nobody can doubt about alien's talents?If you are an investor, what criteria will you apply to choose talented aliens?If you apply criteria X,its not necessary that talent can be measured only by X.So your selection of aliens can be doubted.
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Eric LEMAITRE
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MH
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
I think he's claiming that ONLY non-US people have any talent at all...
MH
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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Originally posted by Eric Lemaitre:
Hi Jeroen !
I think he's claiming that ONLY non-US people have any talent at all...
I believe no, you are wrong on this one, he's rather claiming innovation right now comes from non-US people, and I totally agree with him.
Inside a company either you don't produce but innovate for future, or you produce for present needs without innovating, and you can play both roles. Right now there no innovation at all form US people except in the military field. In IT industry right now with their greed for profits companies only exploit their employees for producing and don't let them take time for training, with so many people available they can afford looking for exact skills match for job positions for immediate producing, but this process hampers innovation.
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Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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