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Advice for Interview - Consulting

 
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Hello everyone.

I will soon be attending an intrview for a consulting job.
I am a fresh graduate with minimal experience.
I have not managed to land a job yet and want to peform extremely well for this consulting opportunity.

Please can you give me advice regarding interviews with consulting organisations in general.

Your help is much appreciated, I have found that opportunities don't come that often.

P.S I'll let you know the outcome, if you are interested.
 
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Are they interviewing for permanent full time consultants or subcontractors?

In the former case it means you basically work for the company as a permanent employee, and they bill you out as a contractor. In the latter case it means that the firm gets the initial contract and then has you do the subcontract work...
 
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Hi Robert,

They are recruiting permenant full time consultants.
 
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We want to know the outcome.

Most contracting companies would sell you in slavery or sex traffic if the commission is right.

Usually contractors are in business to diminish your rights as enacted by congress. Labelling you a consultant is a blue ribbon on a pig. The clients, johns, usually treat you like a third class citizen.

IMO, hold out for a direct hire.
 
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They are recruiting permenant full time consultants.


If their lips are moving there is a good chance they are spewing lies. You don't have any experience. What can you consult on?
 
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Hi Homer,

Being a graduate with hardly any experience, any IT job is good.
So, I don't quite get your point about the pig with the blue ribbon?

Have you got any information that may be of use for me please?
I dont want to hear de-motivating comments which will put me off the job, and this jobs discussion forum.

Thanks in advance.
 
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They are going to train up the successful candidate, they do not require experience.
 
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Ignore my comments if the name of the company is on the order of Price, Watershouse & Cooper. If it's a mom and pop shop or something on the order of TekSystems, Technisource, Belcan, Arrow, Comsys, Sykes, then beware.

Being a graduate with hardly any experience, any IT job is good.


No, no, no you want a job in a marketable technology that has a future.
[ March 29, 2005: Message edited by: Homer Phillips ]
 
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Mark,

Usually a consulting firm requires about 3 years experience minimum from its potential hires (from my experience anyway). But if the firm has a client where they've landed a few consultants, sometimes juniors can be put on the team. Without any experience I'd be willing to bet that the firm is going to leverage that when it comes to your compensation... but they will more than likely be billing you out at contractor's rates: so you should be offered a salary that is above average.

I am currently independent. But I have subcontracted, as well as worked as a permanent full-time consultant in the past. If you want more information, please send me a private email.
 
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Mark,

Do not let these other posts completely discourage you.

Read
this article
and
this article
by Joel at fogcreek. The articles (the first especially) show the importance of hiring smart fresh grads. Some consultant firms can hire freshers because they will get projects requiring QA, JSPs, or something not terribly difficult alongside more experienced developers (as Robert in the above post said).

I would only be wary if they expected you to take an intensive project or role in the first year. It is fair to ask during the interview what kinds of roles and projects you will be placed in to start out. Asking such a question may help you identify possible red flags.
[ March 30, 2005: Message edited by: Marc Peabody ]
 
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Thanks for that, sounds like a good question to ask.
 
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