what should i do in that case ?
pooja jain
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posted 12 years ago
Hi ,
I am posting this in this forum because I think it is common in job & want to know how you all handle such situation .
When I did very-very good work for about 1 month , my PL just told me nice work nothing else . After just some week they selected my coleegue for on-site . He didn't do even half work as compare to me . I felt like , because they need a good worker here for doing work so they choosed him .
So from that time , I never did any extra work . In that case all ( PL ) are looking ( not saying ) to me like , I am not doing my own job . I am very sad from this .
what should I do ?
please reply .
Thanks .
I am posting this in this forum because I think it is common in job & want to know how you all handle such situation .
When I did very-very good work for about 1 month , my PL just told me nice work nothing else . After just some week they selected my coleegue for on-site . He didn't do even half work as compare to me . I felt like , because they need a good worker here for doing work so they choosed him .
So from that time , I never did any extra work . In that case all ( PL ) are looking ( not saying ) to me like , I am not doing my own job . I am very sad from this .
what should I do ?
please reply .
Thanks .
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Jay Ashar
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peter wooster
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posted 12 years ago
I suspect the person who was selected spent more time on office politics than you did, or maybe he had other skills that were needed onsite.
Originally posted by pooja jain:
Hi ,
I am posting this in this forum because I think it is common in job & want to know how you all handle such situation .
When I did very-very good work for about 1 month , my PL just told me nice work nothing else . After just some week they selected my coleegue for on-site . He didn't do even half work as compare to me . I felt like , because they need a good worker here for doing work so they choosed him .
So from that time , I never did any extra work . In that case all ( PL ) are looking ( not saying ) to me like , I am not doing my own job . I am very sad from this .
what should I do ?
please reply .
Thanks .
I suspect the person who was selected spent more time on office politics than you did, or maybe he had other skills that were needed onsite.
Vishwa Kumba
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posted 12 years ago
Continue your work as usual.A short onsite trip is rewarding in terms of both experience/money. But don't loose hope and you might get a better reward the next time. Make sure you work constructively and not just spend lots of time in the office.
Originally posted by pooja jain:
After just some week they selected my coleegue for on-site . He didn't do even half work as compare to me. I felt like , because they need a good worker here for doing work so they choosed him .
So from that time , I never did any extra work . In that case all ( PL ) are looking ( not saying ) to me like , I am not doing my own job . I am very sad from this.what should I do ?
Continue your work as usual.A short onsite trip is rewarding in terms of both experience/money. But don't loose hope and you might get a better reward the next time. Make sure you work constructively and not just spend lots of time in the office.
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Sadanand Murthy
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posted 12 years ago
I agree with Peter's thougths on this. On-site work requires certain skills, especially soft skills - includes language skills, people skills, presentation skills etc. Perhaps the chosen one was better at these other skills and had enough tech. skills to be able to handle the job on-site.
In an office environment, visibility also counts. Things like participation in office events, picnics, outings etc. Things like doing the job, and only the job - heads-down programming.
Perhaps the PL was more comfortable with the one who got picked for the on-site job. That is where personal chemistry comes in. Perhaps the fact that you are female made the difference.
All this is mere speculation and it will likely not help you since no one here is in the same company and is privy to all that you are privy to. If you are bold enough, you could ask the PL for the reason .
Is this the 1st time that this happened to you? If so, don't to a foolish thing like not taking your job seriously. If you are not happy, then quit. Otherwise, take this up as a challenge to yourself, find out from your PL what was lacking in you that caused you to miss the boat (airplane??) and work on that aspect.
In an office environment, visibility also counts. Things like participation in office events, picnics, outings etc. Things like doing the job, and only the job - heads-down programming.
Perhaps the PL was more comfortable with the one who got picked for the on-site job. That is where personal chemistry comes in. Perhaps the fact that you are female made the difference.
All this is mere speculation and it will likely not help you since no one here is in the same company and is privy to all that you are privy to. If you are bold enough, you could ask the PL for the reason .
Is this the 1st time that this happened to you? If so, don't to a foolish thing like not taking your job seriously. If you are not happy, then quit. Otherwise, take this up as a challenge to yourself, find out from your PL what was lacking in you that caused you to miss the boat (airplane??) and work on that aspect.
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Arjunkumar Shastry
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posted 12 years ago
Goging for onsite requires you to be jack of all master of none.If some problem comes onsite,you should be smart enough to give some quick patch and not through analysis.In short going onsite means you know little bit of every technology the client is using and you are confident on how to act smartly when client finds bug/error or how to dodge difficult questions and save your company's a**.!
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posted 12 years ago
Maybe you can work on your english, written-verbal communication skills ("cirtificates") and try to be precise in your communication (M-DOC -- Amdocs, it's not the same thing) and articlate your thoughts better... a PL is less likely to find person dependable if he's only making tall claims about hard work without backing it up with real performance based on facts and figures..
I just feel you're feeling victimized unnecessarily... based on what I read in your earlier posts...just frank opinion...no offence intended!!!
- Manish
[ April 14, 2005: Message edited by: Manish Kumar ]
I just feel you're feeling victimized unnecessarily... based on what I read in your earlier posts...just frank opinion...no offence intended!!!
- Manish
[ April 14, 2005: Message edited by: Manish Kumar ]
John Halkins
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posted 12 years ago
go get this book from amazon. A lot of Microsoft and amazon interview questions came from here.
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Jae Kim
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posted 12 years ago
Do not join Amdocs. It's the most racist company. They only promote Israeli people. Will employ dirty tactics to force you out. I have noticed middle management treating to indians as code-niggars..(I am not indian so they felt safe using that term).. That attitude is pervasive throughout company's international offices. Ask people from indian origins working in Amdocs.. you would be much happier in long run joining some true multi-national organization. Atleast there glass ceiling is subtle.
K Riaz
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posted 12 years ago
Whats with the hash between "written" and "verbal"? Why not "..particularly your written and verbal communication skills."
You mean "articulate"
"person dependable" or "dependable people"?
Looks like your post backfired
[ April 30, 2005: Message edited by: Kashif Riaz ]
Originally posted by Manish Kumar:
Maybe you can work on your english, written-verbal communication skills
Whats with the hash between "written" and "verbal"? Why not "..particularly your written and verbal communication skills."
Originally posted by Manish Kumar:
and articlate your thoughts better...
You mean "articulate"
Originally posted by Manish Kumar:
a PL is less likely to find person dependable
"person dependable" or "dependable people"?
Looks like your post backfired
[ April 30, 2005: Message edited by: Kashif Riaz ]
Arjunkumar Shastry
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posted 12 years ago
If majority of its operations are in Israel then how the company can be blamed for promoting Israelis?
They have opened the center in India too.
Originally posted by Jae Kim:
Do not join Amdocs. It's the most racist company. They only promote Israeli people..
If majority of its operations are in Israel then how the company can be blamed for promoting Israelis?
They have opened the center in India too.
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Suman Sarker
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posted 12 years ago
No offence intended but what is "cirtificate"? Did you mean "certificate"?
Pooja wanted to know if it's a common practice to be treated like that in the workplace and that's why he posted this issue in this job discussion forum. Did pooja mention that he went to his PL to make the so called "tall" claims?
Originally posted by Manish Kumar:
Maybe you can work on your english, written-verbal communication skills ("cirtificates")
No offence intended but what is "cirtificate"? Did you mean "certificate"?
Originally posted by Manish Kumar:
a PL is less likely to find person dependable if he's only making tall claims about hard work without backing it up with real performance based on facts and figures..
Pooja wanted to know if it's a common practice to be treated like that in the workplace and that's why he posted this issue in this job discussion forum. Did pooja mention that he went to his PL to make the so called "tall" claims?
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Jae Kim
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posted 12 years ago
Majority of operations are *not* in Israel. They have development center but they always had about 2000 Indian origin employees. I am giving you inside picture. It's really frustrating to realize mid-career that you worked for the company where entire management is filled with biased people. It's not one bad manager.. attitude is pervasive.. and promotions go to Israeli ppl not becoz of seniority or skills.. it's becoz they tack on additional "Hebrew required" requirements for most positions above team leaders.
Originally posted by Arjunkumar Shastry:
If majority of its operations are in Israel then how the company can be blamed for promoting Israelis?
They have opened the center in India too.
Majority of operations are *not* in Israel. They have development center but they always had about 2000 Indian origin employees. I am giving you inside picture. It's really frustrating to realize mid-career that you worked for the company where entire management is filled with biased people. It's not one bad manager.. attitude is pervasive.. and promotions go to Israeli ppl not becoz of seniority or skills.. it's becoz they tack on additional "Hebrew required" requirements for most positions above team leaders.
