Originally posted by Shawn DeSarkar:
In canada 2-3 years exsperience will probbably get you an "entery level" position and about 40,000 Canadian dolars, on top of which they will tax you to death. I think the job situation is absolutly terible here....... but maybee I was exspecting too much. I had to fight for my life to get the programming job I have now.
Originally posted by peter wooster:
Canada is similar to the states, except that there is no H1B or anything like it and the economy is much better.
Non-Canadian experience accounts for very little, this makes it difficult for foreign workers to find jobs.
I just ran the $40,000 income through Quick-Tax assuming a single person, you would pay about $8000 in income tax if you lived in Ontario. That's about 20%.
Originally posted by Shawn DeSarkar:
I was once offered $12/h to goto Toronto for a tech job. Maybee canada is not so bad, but it definitly is not good for "IT" and programming. Im thinking of becoming a carpenter
Originally posted by Sandeep Baskar:
Canandian dollar is weaker than US$ and the wages are not as high as those in US.
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Originally posted by Shawn DeSarkar:
Right now, I do Java Servlets, JSF, front end for an MS SQL server database. I am Responsible for making sure the systems runs fine in a production environment. If the SQL server is slow its my fault. I completely "design" everything I code, really I just get the order to create something and I do it. I must use all opensource such as Tomcat, Apache Torque, Eclipse, Myfaces JSF inplementation. This is all medical grade software im building.
I get 35,000 - Tax Canadian Is that a common wage in Canada for such a thing ?
What would an American or Indian get ?
Originally posted by Eric Lemaitre:
The issue is not really about the some 5,000 $ in all now asked to discourage alien hiring, but the minimum 3 mounths waiting for formalities (on purpose of course, still expected to discourage alien hiring).
In clear it is IMHO totally impossible to come to the US on a temporary basis except for indians or chinese.
Your "hard to come permanently" stating is not really relevant either to me, for once you get any legal visa you get automatically a GC after 3 years.
Originally posted by Shawn DeSarkar:
I get 35,000 - Tax Canadian Is that a common wage in Canada for such a thing ?
Originally posted by john mattucci:
But now I'm wondering is it really worth it i.e. is there really a future in this?
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Originally posted by Eric Lemaitre:
the only legal immigration possibilities are marriage & DV-lottery, so both relevant to total randomness, rather than selecting those who have professionnal skills strong enough to have a real chance to succeed.
I am not really exagerating, people with real skills will rely on a visa labor, those with no useful skill will rely on pure chance through DV-lottery, hence my quote.
So in total 2,435 $ minimum, in practice about 5,000 $ including the (mandatory in practice) immigration lawyer's fee, I insist.
Not really, for I was speaking about normal access to labour visas, you are speaking about networking. There is a huge trend to promote only anglo-saxon people or assimilated for cultural grounds
appart from these 5 nations you are stating the some other 200 nations are not represented at all.
You should try to find an immigration lawyer and speak to him frankly about this, you would discover the situation is much nearer from my words than yours.
The US immigration system is totally opaque, like at poker you have to "pay for seing" some 5,000 $ to an immigration lawyer to build a file so as to check for immigration possibility. There is simply no official way to evaluate real chance for immigration, or checking its result.
Originally posted by john mattucci:
With all due respect I'm looking for constructive comments rather than place your tail between your legs and run. Current obligations contrain me to remain in Toronto. So I'm looking for comments/opinions from individuals who have their fingers on the pulse stating what the actual state of the industry is like in the city or surrounding areas.
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Originally posted by Luke Kolin:
Because after all, nothing significant occurs outside of Canada.
Luke
In short, if you are still in entry level and not graduating from a canadian university, it's still very dark out there.
Unless you are capable of lying big on your resume to try your luck on some dumb agencies.
Canada's job market relies more on agencies than in the states.
with a MS degree in computer from states and 2 years working experience, I got 3 real interviews in three months
However, most entry level jobs are taken by local new graduates through internships.