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I'm aged 23 and have worked in various mechanical and electrical engineering roles for the past 6 years. I started studying Java a year or two ago due to un-happiness and zero job satisfaction. I have recently passed the SCJP and am now studying for the scjcd.

Do I stand any chance what so ever of breaking my way into the IT industry without experience or a degree?

For information i'm based in the North-west of England.
 
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Sorry my mistake SCWCD!!!
 
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Of course you stand a chance, otherwise people like myself would never have got going.

One thing you can do is see if your current or past employer will hire you in their IT department. It does not even have to be a programming role, as once you are in IT you should be able to manouvre yourself into a better position.
 
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Originally posted by aj woodier:

Do I stand any chance what so ever of breaking my way into the IT industry without experience or a degree?

For information i'm based in the North-west of England.



There is already a good supply of brilliant Computer Science graduates in the UK, which makes it very difficult for people without degrees to enter IT in a development role in the UK, particularly in the city. You are competing against people who have written compilers for their final year projects, graduating with 1st class degrees with many internships to match, writing software using the mathematical Z notation. Competition for places is already tough even after graduation. Employers are unlikely to hire people who have no university education nor any commercial experience, since they can cherry pick their way through many of the highly talented IT graduates in the market who fit their needs. I cannot remember the last time (if ever, I might add) I saw an advert for a Java development role which did not ask for a technical degree with strong programming content (even if its not explicitly stated, its implied). As an example, I work for a company where every employee has at least a degree, some have masters or even a Ph.D. The work requires strong knowledge which cannot be picked up from a learn-Java-in-24-hours guide, and therefore a strong IT degree is the first requirement.
 
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So your suggestion is...

Additional :
Is it possible to gain this vast amount of knowledge studying with Open University or is that particular institute looked down upon by the managers of the IT world?
 
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