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I recently joined HCL. Here we have no acccess to internet, not even Google. Only team leads and above have internet access. Our only link to the outside world is through official mail id.
I find it really hard to work without Google and Javaranch as the first thing I always did after getting a task was to Google for it. I understand mail sites being restricted but restricting everything looks like a handicap to me.

Do other companies also do the same that is restrict internet access. I find it really strange that an IT company doesn't give internet access to software developers.

What do other ranchers feel about "No internet".
[ September 08, 2005: Message edited by: Anjali S Sharma ]
 
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I agree with your feelings. I also think not allowing Internet access is a bad policy. That is why when you ask about company culture, ask specific information about such facilities, policies. Good work culture and bad work culture are relative words...

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You can talk to your seniors about it.But it's really bad when some one is
not getting internet in such a comapny like HCL.
 
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yes its really bad..
But i think in TCS, Wipro, Infosys also internet acces is not there..
 
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I think its a bad practice. I know few big companies give internet access on project basis. i.e. one needs to enter the credentials assigned to the project to get on to the web. So, any team member irrespective of his/her designation can get access the internet

Hows that for a suggestion?
[ September 08, 2005: Message edited by: Sachin Mehra ]
 
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Is it true that TCS, Wipro, Infosys doesn�t allow internet access ? Somebody please clarify.
 
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Generally companies like Infy,wipro, tcs( may be of late HCL) which hire in mass , dont give internet connection..

In infy, i-net connection for depends on ur project needs and how good you are at convincing ur project manager that u need internet ..
 
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Atleast you have official mail ID to remain in touch with the outside world. If you talk about P****. they even don't have internet connection unless and untill its very imp requirement of a project and you have to get a manager approval for that.

And the worst part is with the official email ID you cannot recieve emails from Yahoo/rediff/hotmail or neither can you send mails to any free email accounts. they all are blocked. so you are in a JAIL.

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I would refuse to work under those conditions
 
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Same here. I wouldn't either.
At times while working, I need to lookup google for a hundred things related to Java.
Maybe I just need to check my personal mail or chat for a while. Maybe I need an update on a stock quote when I don't have much work. What the hell, maybe I just feel like wasting some time on Javaranch!!

I feel that as long as one meets their deadlines and performs well, all these things shouldn't be an issue.

Sounds *frustrating* not to be allowed to access the net
[ September 08, 2005: Message edited by: Amit Saini ]
 
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http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/index.html

Q.E.D
 
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Do we seriously need online information for our 'development projects'? . I prefer manuals and books. Anyhow blocking Internet is very annoying.
 
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I have a work around try www.pagegetter.com , http://www.eng.dmu.ac.uk/Agora/Help.txt. This is known as browse by e-mail method. Send the URL to the specified e-mail address and the web-page is in your mail box. The obvious drawback seems to be the absence of cookie based session management.
 
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Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
I have a work around try www.pagegetter.com , http://www.eng.dmu.ac.uk/Agora/Help.txt. This is known as browse by e-mail method. Send the URL to the specified e-mail address and the web-page is in your mail box. The obvious drawback seems to be the absence of cookie based session management.



pagegetter is paid(only a few hits are free). The other one looks interesting. Will try that. Thank You
[ September 08, 2005: Message edited by: Anjali S Sharma ]
 
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MNC's are lot better in this case.in sapient there is no restriction on net access and chatting. most of the MNC's have a very professional approach regarding Internet usage and all as they give enough work to the employees to keep them busy.
 
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You can get around this by setting up a proxy server.
 
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I have heard that even GE Healthcare does not allow internet access.
Some companies allow internet access after 7 PM in the evening.
Which other companies do not allow internet access ?
 
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iFlex in Pune earler had only 4 PCs with internet access and it was nown as internet zone, you can go there if you needed some info. PCS and Satyam were other two I have heard, not sure about today's status though.

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PCS....very true......
 
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Hahahaha Sorry, but it's really funny. It's like denying computer to magazine editor and asking him to work with typewriter I just can't imagine how would I do anything without internet. What are they thinking? Do they want you google everything you need from home after work ? That is just plainly stupid.
 
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If this trend continues, one day companies will provide us with PC without keyboard and ask us to code.

I remember when recession was going on, I was working with a computer education center at Valsad/Gujarat/India. As do the cost cutting, owner stopped daily tea quota that company proving to the employees � not a tea in a day. We felt that thanks God, the owner is running Computer Education center, otherwise he would have said flying plane without fuel if he would be the owner of any airlines.
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Originally posted by Vladas Razas:
Hahahaha Sorry, but it's really funny. It's like denying computer to magazine editor and asking him to work with typewriter I just can't imagine how would I do anything without internet. What are they thinking? Do they want you google everything you need from home after work ? That is just plainly stupid.



Maybe because some people misuse the facility. I have seen people who come to office and login into yahoo messanger and chat for the whole day.
Some people do stock trading. Others job searching.
 
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Maybe because some people misuse the facility. I have seen people who come to office and login into yahoo messanger and chat for the whole day.
Some people do stock trading. Others job searching.



It is correct. But those people would find other ways to misuse work time. In my opinion if they would make a regular work day 6 hours instead of 8 they would get increase in productivity. Its very hard to stay focused for 8 hours. At least for programmer. People are bored and overworked that is the real problem.
 
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


Maybe because some people misuse the facility. I have seen people who come to office and login into yahoo messanger and chat for the whole day.
Some people do stock trading. Others job searching.



The focus of the company should be on whether the job gets done, not how or when the job gets done. Maybe, the people who are chatting all day work better at night. At my previous company, we had a contractor who would come in at noon, and attend meetings and chat on messenger till 4. His "day" didn't start till 5 pm. Another contractor came in regularly at 8:30 and left at 5. However, the first contractor was consistently outperforming the second, simply because the he knew that his brain didn't kick in till the sun set. We kicked the second contractor out and kept the first.
 
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Originally posted by Jayesh Lalwani:


The focus of the company should be on whether the job gets done, not how or when the job gets done.



When the job gets done also need to be focused rite
 
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Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


When the job gets done also need to be focused rite



Sorry, I should have clarified "when". By "when" I mean as in at night, during working hours, early in the morning, lunch time, etc etc. Yes, you are right, people should stick to the schedule, and deliver what they promised. It should not matter at what point during the day the programmer is actually writing code.
 
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Originally posted by Jayesh Lalwani:


Sorry, I should have clarified "when". By "when" I mean as in at night, during working hours, early in the morning, lunch time, etc etc. Yes, you are right, people should stick to the schedule, and deliver what they promised. It should not matter at what point during the day the programmer is actually writing code.



Understood your point, I am just kidding. True as long as you complete your work in schedule and your work style dont affect other co workers its should not be a problem.
 
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I wouldnt mind if compaies block access to messangers and some job sites, but not allowing internet is criminal, at least in my books.

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