IEEE-USA CARE Members:
You should have received an e-mail from me last week
regarding an effort in Congress to raise the H-1B cap.
IEEE-USA has learned that proponents of this plan may
introduce it formally at a hearing tomorrow. However,
they are not yet certain they have the votes to win.
If the supporters conclude that they do not, the
measure will not even be introduced.
It is vital that all IEEE members who oppose the expansion
of the H-1B program contact their legislators by tomorrow
(Thursday, October 20th) afternoon. We can beat this
proposal before it is even considered, but only if your
legislators hear from you today.
Of particular importance are Senators from Massachusetts,
Vermont, California, Iowa, Utah, South Carolina, Oklahoma
and Pennsylvania. Your Senators are key votes in this effort.
Therefore, your support will be especially important in
helping us win.
You can access the IEEE-USA Legislative Action Center here
for more information, and to contact your members of
Congress: https://www.capitolconnect.com/ieee.
Thank you for your help and continued support.
Russ Harrison
IEEE-USA
(202) 785-0017
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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Originally posted by ab parashar:
They are getting new H1's but what about the ones who are already here??
Looks like it will take forever (or maybe never) to get a green card now.....reminds me of some kind of fodder....get people on fresh H1's (make sure they get stuck with the same employer for 6 year waiting for the elusive GC....with no improvement in job profile and 3.5% p.a raise) then kick them out at the end of 6 years and get a fresh batch of new H1B's....
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
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correct me if I'm wrong, an H1-B can quit and go home at any time.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
While I am a proponent of immigration, what obligation does the US government have to current H1-B's with respect to greencards? No one forces them to come take these jobs. You make it sound like H!-B's are some sort of slave labor, but it is a 100% opt in program, and, correct me if I'm wrong, an H1-B can quit and go home at any time.
--Mark
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Originally posted by Homer Phillips:
Sure one can if you did not sign a lease for lodging, sign a note for a car, start an MS degree or try to live the American Dream. IMO, you are trolling Mark. I'd love a sheriff's opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. Call the law.
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
https://www.thecareertoolkitbook.com/
Originally posted by Eric Lemaitre:
Are you kidding ? Don't tell me you are not aware that all H1B holders aim only GC and nothing else, they work very hard under H1B status only providing they have fair chances to get one at the end. H1B is no easy leisure for them but a mandatory hard step to GC, so they keep on sweating much and won't quit to get back home at any price even under fierce abuses as some Indian ranchers clearly were whitnesses of. H1B is a real obligation which really turns to slave labor for many of them through bodyshoppers, we all know, they accept it as long as they stand a chance for GC.
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
https://www.thecareertoolkitbook.com/
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
Good for them! I want people to come here and try for greencards. I also don't want just anyone to get it. I want the US to get the best and the brightest. I don't want it to be a trivial process.
Now if the US is misleading people about their chances, that is of concern. However, AFAIK, the numbers are public information. The odds might be low because you are competing with a large number of people and immigration caps but a ceiling on the number from each country (I thought it was by region but I might be a little out of date with the latest greencard policies).
It is slave labor only insomuch as the H1-B wants to stay in the US. At any time s/he can decide to return to India. I recognize that if you are here as part of a company, that may hurt your future employment with them, but again, that is a factor you can account for. In US companies plenty of people get assignments they don't like, but with the promise of raises/bonuses/promotions, and have to decide whether or not to ride it out or change jobs.
Again, greencards are not required to be happy. If we had this process for people applying as political refugees, that would be different, but this process is primarily used by educated workers. If they don't make it o, or it takes them a while, they simply need to factor those risks into trying to come here.
--Mark
Does this still need a vote on the floor? Or Judiciary Committee alone is enough?
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
[QB]It is slave labor only insomuch as the H1-B wants to stay in the US. At any time s/he can decide to return to India.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
I want people to come here and try for greencards. I also don't want just anyone to get it. I want the US to get the best and the brightest. I don't want it to be a trivial process.
--Mark
Originally posted by kayal cox:
Except that the chances of one getting a GC is not based on whether they are the best and brightest. How I wish it were that way![]()
But now, it is merely the roll of dice. Well deserving people (me) have been waiting with a backlogged status for more than two years now!!
Originally posted by ab parashar:
FYI,
even if you were a Nobel prize winner....you would still be relegated to retrogression....
Originally posted by ab parashar:
even if you were a Nobel prize winner....you would still be relegated to retrogression....
Originally posted by Luke Kolin:
And kayal, wether you enter on an H-1 (or an O-1) has nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by Homer Phillips:
Sure one can if you did not sign a lease for lodging, sign a note for a car, start an MS degree or try to live the American Dream.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
Again, no one held a gun to their held and force them to sign a lease. They leases will expire and attending school is not a life or death requirement.
Originally posted by Homer Phillips:
IMO, you are trolling Mark. I'd love a sheriff's opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. Call the law.
Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
If you have an issue with my postings, feel free to complain to any and all of the sheriffs; you can find htem here.
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Originally posted by Homer Phillips:
How it gets passed is usually stealthy. It might get bundled with something else and be call something on the order of a consolidated omnibus budget act. There will be enough pork in the bill so that the every politician has some must have legislation included. So I don't think even the committee absolutely ever has to vote on the bill by itself.
Arlen Spector and James Sensenbrenner are key players.
Do you know when the H1B visa expires and the worker leaves US for good with no intention of coming back, can she/he claims the money that has been contributed to superannuation fund. I know I can do it in Australia, how about in the US. Please dont tell me that there is no such thing as super fund there
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Originally posted by Andrew Monkhouse:
The American equivalent to Australian Superanuation is their 401(k) scheme (I believe). If you are about to start a 401(k) then it might be worth your while to talk to a few organizations about what they can do to help transfer your money back to Australia eventually.
Originally posted by Jim Baker:
It also puts foreign workers at risk and may further a "brain drain" in other countries.
Originally posted by Tim Cao:
I think the US's SS is something different, which provides social benefits from the income tax that one pays. Is it the thing which pays monthly allowance for the unemployed, and housing supports and the like? In Australia, it is handled by a goverment agency which is called Centre Link.
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
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Originally posted by Rob Aught:
Heh, what about the "brain drain" here. US college students don't want to study any of the sciences anymore because no one sees a future in them. I wonder what we're going to do with the sudden influx of business-oriented degrees? I guess we'll have some really well educated waiters in the near future![]()
Back in the bad ole days when I was at Citigroup, there were tons of projects on the drawing board, and I mean things they really wanted that were beyond "nice to have" applications. The problem was they didn't have enough people to work on all of their projects, off-shoring was not getting them the results they had hoped, and there was a hiring freeze on new tech workers.
I don't think there is any shortage of work for high tech workers, what I think is the problem is too many companies who are reluctant to high the IT professionals they really need and are simply making do. I think the original proposal of doubling the H1-B visas was a bit much, but I also think there is plenty of work for the 95,000 visas we are about to have.
Protectionism is not the answer. The answer is to get venture capitalists to quit sitting on their cash. Less of a problem than it was 2 years ago, but it still seems to be the case. Investment into technology seems to be a low priority. Get companies invested in technology again, get the venture capitalists to start funding promising new ideas, and there will be plenty of work for everyone.
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM IT Engineer, MS/CS (RHCE, RHCX, SCJA, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, Net+)
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