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Hi ranchers,
The time for change has come.Am looking out for a place in the top 10 cos in Mumbai.As it is, the IT companies in Mumbai are very few.Can anyone of you pls help me out?
Have 4 yrs exp in Java/J2EE.
How is CGI(located in SEEPZ)?
Also Accenture & CapGemini are coming to my mind...
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
Hi ranchers,
The time for change has come.Am looking out for a place in the top 10 cos in Mumbai.As it is, the IT companies in Mumbai are very few.Can anyone of you pls help me out?
Have 4 yrs exp in Java/J2EE.
How is CGI(located in SEEPZ)?
Also Accenture & CapGemini are coming to my mind...



Out of this three Cap Gemini is better. CGI is better than Accenture. There are lot of good companies in and around SEEPZ.
 
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Are you referring to CGI-AMS?

If so, CGI is not match for Accenture size wise.
A quick look at
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/co?s=GIB
and
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/co?s=acn
will give you an idea about the corporate size of both companies.

Secondly, do visit www.vault.com. You can get a review of the job descriptions etc. Most of it is specific to USA, but I've noticed some Indian positions also there. No harm checking out that resource!

Accenture, in my opinion is much highly respected than CGI-AMS.
The consulting market is more or less controlled by IBM and Accenure in the USA, which I assume will directly or indirecly affect the number of projects being oursourced to India.

All the best.
 
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Amit, we cant decide a company to join just based on finance, corporate matters. I felt CGI is better, based on work culture. No doubt Accenture will have better reputation in name and add more value to the resume. But I their policies are hard to digest. If I have options between CGI and Accenture, I will go for CGI where the work culture, environment will be better. Its my opinion and this may change from one person to other. I will choose a company based on their work culture and not how they are respected in industry. Even Finance status also more important.

I am not sure CGI and CGI-AMS both are same. But CGI is Cananda based company. They have offices in SEEPZ, Mumbai and Bangalore.
 
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Here is the CGI website: http://www.cgi.com/

And it seems that CGI and CGI-AMS are same.
[ November 21, 2005: Message edited by: KJ Reddy ]
 
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Hey if there are 2 different opinions about one company,it's not gonna help me much
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:

Am looking out for a place in the top 10 cos in Mumbai.As it is, the IT companies in Mumbai are very few.Can anyone of you pls help me out?


What criteria for listing in top 10? money,work culture,projects etc?
If you want to join some startup look near Hiranandani complex,some startups have comeup there.EDS has also opened the shop in Malad I believe.ICICI infotech should be good one.If you want better companies I think Pune will be the better option than Mumbai.Hexaware is also good.SEEPZ anyway has lost its charm I believe.
 
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But I their policies are hard to digest.



KJ, can you elaborate more on these policies? I'm curious.

I was talking about CGI and Accenure from a strictly US perspective. Maybe its different in India. You are right in saying corporate finance isn't the only thing. BUt direcrtly or indirectly, it will affect the stability of the company and the job in the long run.

Amit
 
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Originally posted by Amit Saini:


KJ, can you elaborate more on these policies? I'm curious.

I was talking about CGI and Accenure from a strictly US perspective. Maybe its different in India. You are right in saying corporate finance isn't the only thing. But direcrtly or indirectly, it will affect the stability of the company and the job in the long run.

Amit



That is true. Corporate finance will affect the stability of company as well as employee salary and other things. When you take net turnover definitely big companies like Accenture, IBM will be first. When take a small company their profits may not be comparable with big companies. But the smally coompany's can be good companies. For me to join a company, as long as that company making remarkable profits that is fine in financial view.

I found Accenture HR are very rude when I attended their interview. Also same thing I heard from employees who are working or worked for Accenture. And lot of people in JavaRanch pointed Accenture that. Any way most of them are personal opinions. Some thing good for me may be bad for you.
 
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I myself have heard rather bad things abt Accenture,but havent heard almost anything neither good or bad abt CGI...
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
I myself have heard rather bad things abt Accenture,but havent heard almost anything neither good or bad abt CGI...



It is IMR before. Later CGI took over it. IMR is supposed to be one of the good company in SEEPZ. After CGI took over IMR, CGI is not muhc in news. And its average company.
 
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Just a thought - Are'nt these companies about numbers? I mean I have heard from my friend that a typical mail from HR has something like this at the bottom -

' We are 22,212 Strong '

and mails saying that we need to add another 20,000 by the end of the year.
What can we expect from such companies?
 
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Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


Out of this three Cap Gemini is better. CGI is better than Accenture. There are lot of good companies in and around SEEPZ.



What kind of work is it in Capgemini ?
 
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Originally posted by Karthik Guru:
Just a thought - Are'nt these companies about numbers?



Well Karthik, even TCS & Infy promote themseleves in this way so i dont see why shouldnt these companies do it.
 
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


What kind of work is it in Capgemini ?



They are also into consulting like Accenture.
 
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Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


They are also into consulting like Accenture.



Thanks. How is the onsite opportunity ?
 
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


Thanks. How is the onsite opportunity ?



I guess it should be good. Two of my friends who are working with Cap Gemini are in US since long time. But it may change from project to project. So you need to check before joining.
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
Hey if there are 2 different opinions about one company,it's not gonna help me much



For any company you will hear different opinions. It depends on what is one looking for - good work, salary, onsite opportunity , growth etc.
 
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


For any company you will hear different opinions. It depends on what is one looking for - good work, salary, onsite opportunity , growth etc.



Well said.
 
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Short listed ones:
TCS
iFlex
Atos
Cap Gemini
CGI
Accenture
Lehmann Bros

Missed out on :
PCS
Mastek
Syntel
Polaris

Would like to know more about:
Cognizant(Heard that they are opeing an ODC in Mumbai ??)
Webify(Todays Ascent - Onsite)
CGI still no info abt work culture kind of work
[ November 23, 2005: Message edited by: Vedhas Pitkar ]
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
Short listed ones:
TCS
iFlex
Atos
Cap Gemini
CGI
Accenture
Lehmann Bros

Would like to know more about:
Cognizant(Heard that they are opeing an ODC in Mumbai ??)
Webify(Todays Ascent - Onsite)
CGI still no info abt work culture kind of work



There are some small companies in Mumbai which offere good work culture as well as good pay. Glotech(I guess now it is taken over by other company, dont remember the name) opp to SEEPZ is one among them.

Heard TCG Software also good in Mumbai.
 
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Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


There are some small companies in Mumbai which offere good work culture as well as good pay. Glotech(I guess now it is taken over by other company, dont remember the name) opp to SEEPZ is one among them.

Heard TCG Software also good in Mumbai.



Yeah KJ,
Glotech was taken over by SmartStream.It's good but small.Dunno abt TCG though.
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:


Yeah KJ,
Glotech was taken over by SmartStream.It's good but small.Dunno abt TCG though.



I came to know that TCG(Kalkotta based company) one good project in finance domain.
 
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Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
Short listed ones:
TCS
iFlex
Atos
Cap Gemini
CGI
Accenture
Lehmann Bros

Missed out on :
PCS
Mastek
Syntel
Polaris

Would like to know more about:
Cognizant(Heard that they are opeing an ODC in Mumbai ??)
Webify(Todays Ascent - Onsite)
CGI still no info abt work culture kind of work

[ November 23, 2005: Message edited by: Vedhas Pitkar ]



I wont suggest PCS, Polaris.

Other big companies I know are:
Siemens Information Systems Ltd.
MBT
Bluestar Infotech
L&T Information Technology

All big companies may not be good to work.
 
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I heard that Myrell Lynch also opened center at Malad, not sure about spelling guys, but TCS use to do this project.

Guys any one know where is Lehmann brothers and there selection criteria ?
above two are pay masters !!

And yes How is MASTEK doing ? any body from Mastek ?
 
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Originally posted by Mohan Karthick:
Guys any one know where is Lehmann brothers



They are in Navi Mumbai probably. I think they have put their vacancies on naukri.com for recruitment.
 
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Originally posted by Varun Khanna:


They are in Navi Mumbai probably. I think they have put their vacancies on naukri.com for recruitment.



Correction : Lehmann is in Powai.
Also have heard that Kanbay have started their ODC for JP Morgan Chase in Malad (maybe mindspace).Got a call from a consultant regarding it.
 
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What are the best options availbale or ranking for pune for java/j2ee exposure.
 
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I read some guys in the thread saying "Glotech/SmartStream " is a great company ! lol
Guys ive spend quite some time in that place ... and i would not even refer an enemy there :-d
 
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Originally posted by Clint Felix:
I read some guys in the thread saying "Glotech/SmartStream " is a great company ! lol
Guys ive spend quite some time in that place ... and i would not even refer an enemy there :-d



Hmmm thats strange. But some of my friends who are working now told me its good place to work. May be things are changed after you left the company.
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I absolutely agree with Clint, having worked there till quite recently.

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A friend of min was working there over 2 yrs back & at that time he told me that it was a good co (Smartstream).Dont know abt current status.
However not good for me(> 4yrs exp )
 
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KJ wants to join smartstream it looks like.
I just left that place. Its a good place to make money but after that you wont have any skills left! All the programmers have been doing QA.. There is no Design and architecture work being done there anymore. For a small place the environment is worse than the Rajya Sabha (just too much politics). Be prepared to do QA and bug fixing for the rest of your lives. Cognizant and Kanbe are pretty good places to work at
 
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Originally posted by James Helfield:
KJ wants to join smartstream it looks like.
I just left that place. Its a good place to make money but after that you wont have any skills left! All the programmers have been doing QA.. There is no Design and architecture work being done there anymore. For a small place the environment is worse than the Rajya Sabha (just too much politics). Be prepared to do QA and bug fixing for the rest of your lives. Cognizant and Kanbe are pretty good places to work at



I gave feed back on Smart Stream based what I heared thru my friends. If I told good about a company that doesnt mean I want to join there

If that is the case shall we assume that you want to join in cognizant and Kanbe
 
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Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


I gave feed back on Smart Stream based what I heared thru my friends. If I told good about a company that doesnt mean I want to join there

If that is the case shall we assume that you want to join in cognizant and Kanbe



Yeah sure do want to join . I have noticed that you have glorified Smartstream in another of your posts.
 
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Originally posted by James Helfield:


Yeah sure do want to join . I have noticed that you have glorified Smartstream in another of your posts.



Thats because I heard only good about that company. And my friend who is working now, is pretty happy about that company. Even I had offer from them but didnt go because its in Mumbai. Just now I am hearing negative about Smartstream. So I may not suggest this company next time . Any way thanks for info.
 
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hi,
its great to work with big comp like cognizant & kanbay.We work under great mgm & lots to learn from seniors & quality of work is also good.It also give value on resume.but james did we get here sufficinet work or we have to seat on bench.how kanbay is regarding workload & pay.
 
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Originally posted by s jain:
hi,
its great to work with big comp like cognizant & kanbay.We work under great mgm & lots to learn from seniors & quality of work is also good.It also give value on resume.but james did we get here sufficinet work or we have to seat on bench.how kanbay is regarding workload & pay.



Once you start working with those big companies, you may or may not feel that much great. Chances of feeling great is less
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I second with Mr. Reddy.
 
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ya..even u get more stressed.u are in great company & doing nothing.
better I think is to join growing company or mid size company at earlier stage.
 
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