Fake experience

[Atul Neerwani]

I have got a better job..... problem is that my previous to previous organisation experience that i have shown is not correct. Are they going to cross check???

[Nick George]

Probably, your safest bet is to post that fact on a widely read internet forum. After all, saftey first.

[Svend Rost]

Yes they are. You'd better come clean - the sooner the better.

[Ernest Friedman-Hill]

You could simply report to the nearest police station and confess.

[Suresh Thota]

so you are here. To my desk, now.

[Mark Fletcher]

Originally posted by Atul Neerwani:
I have got a better job..... problem is that my previous to previous organisation experience that i have shown is not correct. Are they going to cross check???

To quote Homer Simpson.... "DOH!"

[Eric Lemaitre]

Hi Atul !

I have got a better job..... problem is that my previous to previous organisation experience that i have shown is not correct. Are they going to cross check???

Despite ethic is an issue for me too, I would say don't bother as long as you can learn and adapt to cope with it quick.

Recruiters are not reasonable any longer, they nowadays systematically demand an awful lot of skills so wide no one can sensibly match them. Almost no honest IT pro would be ever hired if he said the truth, that he has almost all of these skills and can learn quickly the very few remaining others lacking, but if he said so he wouldn't be hired.

So if you honestly can cope quickly with the few skills you are lacking, it is OK for me.

Best regards.

[Paul Bourdeaux]

Hmmmmm, I am not sure if I am in the minority here or not, but I have an ethical issue with "boosting" your resume with non-existant experience. In my last two jobs, I had to hit the ground running. I consider myself a quick learner, but if I had lied about some of my skills, I could have been in deep trouble quickly, as there was an immediate need for some of those skills.

Since you titled this topic "Fake Experience", it leads me to believe that the inacuracies were intentional on your part. Most companes (at least in the US) would have adequete grounds for termination of emplyoment, and in some extreme cases, recovery of any damages suffered as a result of the falsified experience (i.e. loss of a term contract because a project could not be completed on time due to incompetancy).

I guess it will now depend on how far from the turth you strayed on your resume. Let's say, for instance, that you claimed to be a DBA in your previous to previous job... If the extent of you database expertise is only knowing how to make an E-R diagram and create a few tables, you may want to start looking elsewhere for employment. But if you did have some administration and maintainance responsibilities, but not as many as the actual DBA, then you will probably be OK...

[Ernest Friedman-Hill]

Now that we've stopped making jokes and are handing out serious advice, I'm moving this to "Jobs Discussion."

[s jain]

u have alrady done the mistake!now better is u prepared well for that so atleast u have knowledge equivalent to exp people.

[Dave Lenton]

Originally posted by Paul Bourdeaux:
Hmmmmm, I am not sure if I am in the minority here or not, but I have an ethical issue with "boosting" your resume with non-existant experience. In my last two jobs, I had to hit the ground running. I consider myself a quick learner, but if I had lied about some of my skills, I could have been in deep trouble quickly, as there was an immediate need for some of those skills.

I agree. The other ethical downside to adding fake experience to a CV is that it could lead to someone getting a job instead of a better qualified candidate.

I'd be quite upset if I worked hard to get some good experience, but then missed out on a job because someone else cheated.

[Arun Sharma]

Hey Atul,

If you are in the US, you could be in a big trouble. I am assuming you are in India. The answer to your question depends on what type of company you are in. If you are in small company / startup you might get away because most of them really don't have hard background checking. But you might get fired for technical incompetency in case you lack the skills of that experience. If you have joined a big corporation, they would definitely call up your last employer's references to verify. Many of them verify something like last 3 employers.

I think you should start looking for another job (of course do not fake anything this time) and quit to be on the safer side and also to get rid of all the mental trouble.

[shiv kedia]

hi atul

nowdays , after selection procedure , no one has time to
check the full details of candidate.
today everyone knows ,what is happening in the companys.
even i have seen many peoples breaking the bond ,
switched to another company. and nothing happens.
your case is minor.

[Prem Khan]

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[ September 06, 2006: Message edited by: Shawn DeSarkar ]

[gaurikay ke]

As was pointed in one of the earlier posts,it depends on the extent to which you have hyped up your resume.I will tell an example: In one of my previous jobs, there was this person who got in as senior programmer by telling he had an experience of 10 years in programming.In a short while,looking at his code and the level of his doubts as well as the number of defects on his features everyone came to know he did not have the experience/expertise he claimed.Not only was he fired, but during his time in the company he was ridiculed.
So hype only that much which you can handle; you would be found out one way or the other.
Best luck.
[ December 12, 2005: Message edited by: gaurikay ke ]

[shiv kedia]

Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
You could simply report to the nearest police station and confess.

[Mohan Karthick]

I recommend that, if you have shown some experience for your first job then, don't show that experience when you change again. Just describe what you have done actually.
That doesn't make any difference.
That solve !

[amod gole]

hi atul,

don't scared.Nwow a days this is normal thing.Every one is showing fake experience.person who is on lower side.who dont know anything about technology they are also showing exp.then why you are not.

and one more important advice from my side now you are exp. person
where ever you are joinig show your latest exp. and start from small org.
because they are not going to cross check ,hey hava their work

and prove your self that you are experience person.once you proved i dont think that any org. ready to leave you

what ever you do,do that thing with confidence no one can top you.......

[Shiv Sidhaarth]

So much of advise has been given by many ranchers.

Nevertheless, Keep this also in mind.

Put in the maximum effort as much as possible in your current project. Keep updating your skills so that you align yourself to the expectation. generally, you can impress your managers and bosses by putting those extra hours (12-15hrs) per day. Show the commitment.

Worst case, even if you r fired, those knowledge gained will be useful to get thru the next company. Dont give up.

Fight till the end.


Sankar

[jiju ka]

There are people who are talented but can't get a job which suites their talent and aptitude. In today's world aptitude have more preference than anything else.

If you don't have aptitude don't go for it even if it offers you a better living. There are many people who come into IT industry without aptitude and make other people's life miserable.

If you have aptitude and not experience, can you build that experience needed for your position?
If you have aptitude and can not build experience then your career is in jeopardy.
If you don't care about career but only better living, you are forcing somebody else to sacrifice their opportunity for you.

In my career I have seen many people getting into IT industry just to make money. A diplomat have more chance to get into IT than a talented programmer/developer/architect. I have seen many fired. Some are fired just because they didn't get an opportunity to prove themself. Some are fired because they didn't fit anywhere.

On the contrary there is nobody who knows everything to match a position. Employer's know about it. Analyzing the experience is just a way of measuring your skills. You are fearing that your actual skills will not match the expected skills. Another fear you have is your employer may find that they are being fooled.

There is no point in worrying about the consequences after taking the challenge. You should not have taken the challenge if you cannot prove yourself.

You got an opportunity to prove yourself? Prove yourself that you fit into the position. Take the challenge than worrying about the consequences of your action. Be true to yourself to continue growing by keeping your innocence.