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Manish Hatwalne
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Just curious to know why was this thread locked?
http://www.coderanch.com/t/43752/md/HUMOR-Java-EE-interview

This is just a joke, and I thought MD was the right forum for the same -- maybe the title could be edited, but why lock? Did I do something inappropriate?

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Did you read the whole thread?
 
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
Did you read the whole thread?


Yes, IMHO my post is innocuous -- as for the URL another person posted, I don't understand the langugae for that URL. And if someone else posts something inappropriate -- maybe that post should be deleted. Anyway -- I just asked because it looked to me like a misunderstanding; but if you think it was appropriate for it to be locked - absolutely no hassles with that.

You guys work hard to keep this palce so nice & useful; so if you think it's appropriate to lock it - I am ok with that.

- Manish
 
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In short, a thread that appears to be Jobs Discussion-related is going to inspire jobs talk regardless of the forum it is in. My decision here was pre-emptive for that reason.

Such topics I think should be clearly marked at the outset, so there is no confusion. For example: {ATTEMPT AT HUMOR} Java/J2EE Interview Questions.

To the degree possible, I don't want to get into questions of carefully reading content if I can avoid it. If you give it some thought, I think you might agree with me that requiring a careful read of content invites greater scrutiny (and subsequent nebulous policy enforcement) rather than less.

I would have gladly replied to your PM, by the way, but your inbox was full.
 
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
In short, a thread that appears to be Jobs Discussion-related is going to inspire jobs talk regardless of the forum it is in. My decision here was pre-emptive for that reason.

Such topics I think should be clearly marked at the outset, so there is no confusion. For example: {ATTEMPT AT HUMOR} Java/J2EE Interview Questions.

To the degree possible, I don't want to get into questions of carefully reading content if I can avoid it. If you give it some thought, I think you might agree with me that requiring a careful read of content invites greater scrutiny (and subsequent nebulous policy enforcement) rather than less.

I would have gladly replied to your PM, by the way, but your inbox was full.


Jim seems to have deleted his post now -- he thought it was fun too!!! I think one should read while taking such actions....

I agree topic title could have been edited as "Funny Java/J2EE Interview" and I thought people might have only added humor to it -- maybe some funny incidents about their interviews or people they interviewed...

Like I said - I don't want to argue against it but now I have some questions based on what you said. There is a topic there called - "Why I am afraid when driving with a person from India", which in every possible way could attract comments making fun of Inida, how badly it is managed, traffic chaos and all that -- every chance it would beome a political thread. Would you lock it as a pre-emtive measure?

That way very existence of MD would mean that people can make political, biased/prejudiced comments; but...let common-sense prevail!

Any chance you might reconsider unlocking that thread?

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It feels like you're telling me this is a meaningful topic and deserves to be re-opened. At which point, it genuinely fails the test of being meaningless. See how that works?

If an MD moderator or other sheriff decides it should be opened, so that everyone has a chance to remark on that zany world of nonsense answers to interview questions, so be it. The part of me that remembers what MD used to be will die a little more, but whatever. It's not like I'm there a lot.
 
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Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:

There is a topic there called - "Why I am afraid when driving with a person from India", which in every possible way could attract comments making fun of Inida, how badly it is managed, traffic chaos and all that -- every chance it would beome a political thread. Would you lock it as a pre-emtive measure?

I didn't lock it. The answer to your question is self-evident.
 
Manish Hatwalne
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Quoting myself again....

Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:

Anyway -- I just asked because it looked to me like a misunderstanding; but if you think it was appropriate for it to be locked - absolutely no hassles with that.

You guys work hard to keep this palce so nice & useful; so if you think it's appropriate to lock it - I am ok with that.

- Manish
 
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[Manish]: Jim seems to have deleted his post now

Yeah, I thought afterwards that it would be better suited to a private forum. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

[Manish]: -- he thought it was fun too!!!

Well I wouldn't go quite that far. I thought it was harmless, and intended as humor. Didn't seem particularly entertaining to me, but frankly I have a hard time imagining that any one person would find more than half (at most) of the threads in MD to be entertaining. There are many different types of humor that appeal to people. The thing is, we don't all agree on which things are really funny, or interesting. There's stuff that's very interesting to me that maybe only appeals to five other people in this forum. Maybe less. There's other stuff that I find immensely boring, but some other posters seem to enjoy it. I figure as long as it's not causing people to fight and behave in a not-nice manner, I have no problem simply ignoring the stuff that doesn't interest me. Live and let live.

Having said that, I belive I do understand Michael's point about interview question threads. They're generally the least useful, most vapid threads of many of our other forums, and I would be happy if we got rid of them entirely - or at least limited them to some forum where I never had to read them, or consider trying to answer one of them to correct some of the horrible misstatements I've seen in those threads. So I can understand Michael's not wanting to encourage such things in general, or in MD in particular. Labeling the thread more appropriately seems a reawsonable workaround in this case.

[ME]: It feels like you're telling me this is a meaningful topic and deserves to be re-opened. At which point, it genuinely fails the test of being meaningless. See how that works?

You can substitute "meaningful" where Manish said things like "funny" or "fun" if you want to, but that, ahem, feels less than convincing.

I guess the thing that bothers me is, if we start closing threads because we personally don't find them very funny, we can quickly kill off most of MD. Even back in the good old days of MD, many of our favorite threads could have been deemed unfunny by someone. Assuming a thread is not causing unniceness, I'd rather keep a thread around if it's interesting to just 10% of our posters, rather than kill it because it's uninteresting to 50-70%.

[ME]: If an MD moderator or other sheriff decides it should be opened, so that everyone has a chance to remark on that zany world of nonsense answers to interview questions, so be it.

OK. Thanks.
 
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I think Jim has said what I was about to say.

I think we all should give a little more importance to subject of the thread.
Obviously post also matters.

I am sure, everything is clear now.
 
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Thanks Jim!

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JY: You can substitute "meaningful" where Manish said things like "funny" or "fun" if you want to, but that, ahem, feels less than convincing.

I have cited both as reasons, but they're not the same. As I've stated elsewhere, the post had a meaningful title. That's one thing. Its content was in fact unfunny to me to the point of irritation. And because our policy is subject and I am subjective, I chose to put this irrelevant fact in writing.

The basis for my concern remains the appearance of meaninggul content. Being horribly unfunny is the greater MD crime, in my opinion, but not a valid reason to lock or remove a topic.
 
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