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please! get rid of [ October 17, 2006: Message edited..

 
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The added text is annoying! When(not if!) I edit my posts, the following text is appended:

[ October 15, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]

Then if I edit my post again, I get another one:

[ October 15, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]
[ October 15, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]

So then I have to go back and edit my post to edit out the edit messages that stack up at the bottom. If one non-editable timestamp can't be added in a subtle way to a small margin at the bottom of the post, DON'T DO IT AT ALL.

Thanks.

[ October 17, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]

[ October 17, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]

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[ October 17, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]
 
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[edited upon reflection to take out my not nice comment]

i don't see what the problem is. my brain quite easily filters out those lines, so much so i didn't even notice the 5 or 6 in yours until i re-read it.

and, like everyone says, when you edit your post, just delete the multiple lines. if you forget, go back and edit it again!!!
[ October 17, 2006: Message edited by: fred rosenberger ]
 
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Real hard, when you re-edit it, delete the timestamps that were added. LOL!

(Or don't make mistakes from the start!)

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Yeah, I always thought it was obvious that when you re-edit something you can (and probably should) simply remove the older timestamps. Judging from the number of times I see multiple timestamps though, it may not be as obvious or easy to everyone as I thought it was.

Now that it's been brought up, it occurs to me that this would probably be a fairly simple change to the UBB code. (As opposed to many other things which might seem like they should be simple, but aren't necessarily - don't ask.) So my question would be - does anyone see a reason why multiple timestamps are a good thing? Are there cases where we actually care about the extended history of edits, or is it enough to just retain the last one? I'm thinking we really just need the last one, but maybe I'm overlooking something.
 
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I'm thinking we really just need the last one, but maybe I'm overlooking something.


I've participated in various forums for many years, and from a user's perspective, the only time you need a timestamp at all is in very contentious forums where people get in heated arguments and unscrupulous people go back and edit out content that is wrong in an attempt to save face. Liberal quoting and timestamps preserve the true story of how the thread went down.

However, you need a full timestamp with seconds for that to work. Good timestamps are unobtrusive; they are in small type and they are placed in the margin at the bottom of the post. See a vBulletin forum for an example.

[ October 17, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]

[ October 17, 2006: Message edited by: sven studde ]

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I like the timestamp thing. Not as much as I like pie, but enough ...

I think it helps to keep the peace.
 
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I don't give a rat's patootie about timestamps one way or another. What I do care about is people being nasty and demanding things. Jim sure took the high road to look into this.

Thanks Jim. Aweful nice of ya.
 
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Who edits his own message more than once or twice ?
If you need to edit it so much, just think deeply before posting
 
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Actually, I'm quite notorious for re-editing my messages numerous times. I'm anal enough that if I see any typos, I just have to go back and fix them. And since I'm a horrible typist, there are almost always typos!

But the timestamp thing doesn't irk me in the least. I just remove all but the last on edits.
[ October 18, 2006: Message edited by: Bear Bibeault ]
 
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I'm also suffering from this. I'd like to see an "Preview reply" next to the "Add reply" button.

On the other hand, in general I don't like this forum engine. But I can live with it The React forum engine is really my favourite. Check out the Gathering of Tweakers (Dutch IT-related discussion forum), which runs on React.
 
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i think it's been mentioned elsewhere that no "preview" was ever implemented since you can go back and edit your post as much as you want anyway. One of the other non-tech forums i visit does NOT allow you to edit, so the preview there is essential.

as far as not liking the engine, if you search around much you'll see why we use cgi, why we don't use Java, and why we haven't made the change. in brief:

1) it was the only dog in town when the 'ranch started
2) see 1
3) there has been no compelling reason to change, and it's a LOT of work to make said change.
 
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Its not so bad in my opinion. The forum is running fine and is free of any major issues right now. Why risk upgrading to something else when its working ? If it aint broke dont fix it.
 
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I always thought that editing yer posts knocked up yer post count. Well that's my excuse anyway
 
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Originally posted by John Myers Its not so bad in my opinion. The forum is running fine and is free of any major issues right now. Why risk upgrading to something else when its working ? If it aint broke dont fix it.



I am doing the cattle drive - and this rule certainly doesn't apply!
 
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
Actually, I'm quite notorious for re-editing my messages numerous times. I'm anal enough that if I see any typos, I just have to go back and fix them. And since I'm a horrible typist, there are almost always typos!

But the timestamp thing doesn't irk me in the least. I just remove all but the last on edits.

[ October 18, 2006: Message edited by: Bear Bibeault ]


With Firefox 2, it's be harder to make typos. At least English typos - we're still on our own with technical typos Using Firefox 2 for an hour and I'm hooked!
 
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