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Hi, I know this question is rather strange or absurd, but I'd really like to know at least as an opinion, which country (England or Canada) offers a better chance for getting java interesting job, or just a java job? specially in main cities like london, toronto or montreal
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I spent many years working in the Toronto area and had the opportunity to work on excellent projects with great people.

You may also want to consider working in Western Canada. Alberta, and, to a lesser extent Saskatchewan, are both booming now.
 
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"Sebastian",

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Hi Don Morgan

I came across the link not canada ....What do you think about this...Is the situation as bad as it is portrayed especially for foreigners and immigrants....

What do you think?
 
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I've friends in the UK who are working on the paperwork to emigrate (or flee, as they call it) to Canada to get out from under the collapsing British society.

Brits are leaving the country even for France in large numbers, something to think of (it used to be the other way around until recently).

This isn't for economic reasons so much as the collapse of society. People no longer feel safe, the police and courts no longer works for you if you need them, etc. etc..

That's how Brits now feel about their own country...
 
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Hi Jeroen !

Brits are leaving the country even for France in large numbers, something to think of (it used to be the other way around until recently).

Anglo-Saxons leaving for France ???
Then explain them they are heading to the wrong direction, France is not a good choice anyway for many reasons (nothing against the french, I am one), as many french I want to emigrate myself (Spain in my case). Even Germany is better now for it has the willingness to engage reforms.

This isn't for economic reasons so much as the collapse of society. People no longer feel safe, the police and courts no longer works for you if you need them, etc. etc.. That's how Brits now feel about their own country...

Very strange indeed... As french press is very much at left (90% sympathetic to socialism) contrary to the population, as soon as something goes wrong in USA or UK we usually hear about it immediately for french press hates Tony Blair almost as much as they hate Bush for "socialism betrayal" in addition to usual ultra-liberalism anathems (please USA & UK don't go upset with this, 80% of french population doesn't care either).

Would it be possible to elaborate ? Is there any relationship with wide opening of labour market to ex-eastern countries (my russian ex-wife who was there recently told me they were overwhelmed with poles and bulgarians especially) ?
 
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Originally posted by Rambo Prasad:
I came across the link not canada ....What do you think about this...

Its bias is obvious. And it's true, although people don't like to say this out loud, that Canada's immigration policy is mostly aimed at importing people to work in low-wage occupations. But there's a fair amount of truth in it: if you're a professional from somewhere else -- a doctor, a nurse, an engineer -- then your degrees and certifications are basically worthless in Canada. It's possible for you to recertify yourself here, but it takes a long time. Now, that's only for occupations that have official certifying bodies like medicine and teaching. It doesn't apply to computer programming. (Or politics for that matter, people from India are doing quite well in that field.)

So if you're a programmer, and you can get through the regular immigration process, there's nothing to stop you from working as a programmer. However Canada doesn't have a program like the US does that's aimed at bringing in foreigners to work for lower-than-native wages in technical fields, so you're basically on the same footing as everybody else at that point.

But don't ask me what the job market is like here. I have no idea.
 
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Thanks for your answers

Mark Herschber, there, I included my last name.

Rambo Prasad, I came across that website too which is very similar to what I've heard for myself, specially about Montr´┐Żal, I guess I just wanted to hear the opposite coming from someone not working for any emigration means.

Eric Lemaitre, I know the feeling, being myself in a country that's heading (probably getting there already) the same direction and not being able to do anything about it. Funny how socialism is supposed to be "for the people" yet most people living it hate it. It is also pathetic how socialism always finds the "solution" to their problems by simply blame it to someone else, always the victim. Anyway, sorry about the politic subject that somehow came here, it wasn't the idea, but I had to say it.
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The reasonable, balanced, un predudiced and fair minded view of the not Candada web site is probably summed up by the following quote.

"Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves with the country they 'originally' came from."
 
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