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Hi Every-one,

I want to discuss my predicament here and want to have your views on the same.

I completed my degree course in 2004. After passing out, i joined a concern in Sept. 2004. The concern had just started its operations and was not even registered at the time i joined them.So i was not given any appointment letter at that time.However, i keep on asking them about the letter. After spending 3 months there i.e. in December they give me the appointement letter but i was surprised to see that they had mentioned the date in the letter as December. I asked them about the same and they told me that my earlier 3 months is a sort of probation-cum-training period and i am appointed as an employee from the date mentioned in the letter. I was disgusted to see this but had no options as i was having very little experience and with that experience no other organisation would have hired me.

After about 5 months our relationship had turned so sour that i had to quit without getting my relieving letter and joined another organisation.

I am looking for a change now but the problem is that with my first job i am cut short of my 3 months work experince.How should i deal with this
in case i mentioned that in my resume , then i am sure those guys won't verify the details during the cross-check or i had to loose my first 3 months work experience due to my appointment letter.

Please provide your inputs for the same.


Thanks in advance.
 
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I am not sure if 3 months of experience means a lot to the prospective employer. But if you mention it in your resume, you can discuss it with the company during the HR interview or interview with your manager. That time you can clearly state that the case is like this and if you verify the results could go eigther way. If you do well in the interview then I do not think there would be any problem. 3 months experience does not mean much.
 
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Hi Sumit,

Thanks for your reply.

Guys i am expecting some more input who are more experienced so that i can
take the right decision.

Please help me out on this.
 
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Originally posted by Nishant Kumar Singh:
Hi Sumit,

Thanks for your reply.

Guys i am expecting some more input who are more experienced so that i can
take the right decision.

Please help me out on this.



You already have @1.7 years of exp(Dec 2004-July 2006) and as Sumit mentioned this should'nt be any problem and 3 months wont count much if you do good in your interviews.

Besides, you said you joined some other organisation. So, if I am not mistaken, you will be asked for your pay-slips only for recent job(the other organisation you are talking about), then why worry about your first job??

You can mention starting job in Sept, but I think HRs will be least concerned with this.

Rest is your choice.

-Best luck with your Job Hunt.
 
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Thanks for your Inputs Rachel.

The problem is that in case i don't discuss this issue with HR during my joining. Then later on in case they go for a back-ground check then they might
think that i had manipulated the details or might not even believe me.

I don't want to go through all this so i feel that i should better tell about this to the HR.

But i don't know whether it will have any negative impacts or other consequences can arise because of this.

Please provide more thoughts on this.

Thanks.
 
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You have 2 choices:

1. Do not tell the truth. If the company then goes for background check you may get fired. Many companies do not go for background check. Some only check on the last employer. So you have chances of scraping through it but you run the risk of getting fired and this will create problems in your future job searches.

2. Tell the truth upfront to your manager. Explain cleverly. Worst case you do not get the job but you are not unemployed currently anyways so that is fine.

Choice is yours.

I would have gone with 2nd option. I believe in telling the truth even though I would word it cleverly to suit me.
 
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Nishant,

I am assuming you are working in India - you havent mentioned your work-area.

If so, companies do not go for COMPLETE employment background check. They are concerned with details of the recent employment - that's it. Yet, be sure you mention Dec as your start-of-employment date(so that you have all the valid documents - if they do background check).

Question of gap will be raised only in the HR round. You may be asked what did you do after graduating till dec. Here you have to be true - saying you joined in Sept - and everythg you went through. They will believe in you.

Good luck. And Dont panic. Everything will be just fine.
 
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Originally posted by Ritika Agarwal:

If so, companies do not go for COMPLETE employment background check. They are concerned with details of the recent employment - that's it. Yet, be sure you mention Dec as your start-of-employment date(so that you have all the valid documents - if they do background check).



There are companies which will do complete employement backgroound.

Nishant,

You have two options:

1. Just ignore your experience for which you dont have documents.

2. Show your experience and explain the situation to HR during HR interview.
Just informing HR that they may not get accurate data if they go for background checking about your first job. During initial career your 3 months is experience may make some difference so, I go with this option.

Good luck
 
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Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


There are companies which will do complete employement backgroound.


I agree. There are, but very few. In Pune most of the companies do not go for any background check. They do reference check at max. There are some who will do a check on educational qualifications and last employer.

I saw a lot of companies in Bangalore do a complete background check. I heard they even ask your neighbours and all about you. Not sure how true it is, but thats what I have heard from people.
 
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Originally posted by Sumit Chopra:

I heard they even ask your neighbours and all about you. Not sure how true it is, but thats what I have heard from people.



Yes that is true. My previous company did that kind of background checking. They went to all my previous employers, school, my home etc., That is basically to check your criminal history. After 9/11 incident many company's checking the criminal history too.
 
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Incidents like 9/11 cannot be prevented by doing background checks in India.
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