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Hi Ranchers,
I'm completely confused.I came to software from Civil engg background so as to Code..Code.. and Code...I practiced C and studied some comp science for getting into a PG Diploma offerd by a institute(CDAC) so that i could enter into software domain with some skills instead of merely a wild card entry.Now after doing that i have gotten placed into a Branded MNC.And working in middleware tech(SeeBeyond). These people have put me in Application Maintenence.So no coding nothing,just keep a vigil and that's all Now i want to switch the company and work as JAVA programmer.But friends says stick to this one for 1.5-2 years(m here for last 10 months) cause brand earns gud calls.But i think what good will it do? I can't show my exp as a java programmer over there no matter as long as i stay.I think small companies offer better work and if you have knowledge "Money will follow".What you all say?? Along with it i'm not getting enough time to carry java study on my own.Even i posted my resume, every where they are asking for exp on it.Above it my resume shows exp on some other field.So calls come for it only. I think going for SCJP certification will earn some calls??Along with it my skills to will develop with its preparation as i dont have any coding exp on Java. What you all say?? How should i go for what i love(Coding)........ I want to start my career as a programmer till the end of life... I want to be into it.... Please advice and if you know some companies which will give me the right start please feel free to suggest'em.What will be the best plan for me.....??? I think stick to company for few more months and go for SCJP certification.Then try for calls..... ??? All advices are welcome.......
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Since you are working in a big company, they will definetly have java projects. you can speak to your seniors and HR regarding your situation. You can demand because you have worked for 10 months in this project. If you demand this with SCJP in hand, it will be more meaningful. I would suggest you to get SCJP and shift to java in the same company. If they are not allowing you to change, then you can look out for job.
 
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Thanks Rohit, i thaught of that only previously. But it dont allow you before completing 18 months.I don't want to stay for 1.5 years doing all that and learninig nothing... Anyway lets C what happens.. At presents i think going for SCJP would be gud.. watcha say...!!
 
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You have already been working there for 10 months and if your company offers you a Java project after 18 months, you have only 8 months left. Trust me, 8 months are nothing in the long term. So stick to your company and get SCJP in the meantime.

On the other hand, if your company is not willing to offer you a Java project at all, start looking for a new job.
 
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i think i know this company!! look, you have to talk to your PM .. in this company HR knows nothing about tech and you are nothin but a "resource" to them ...the PM decides everything .. internally he decides .. forget abt 18 months .. in my project there are people with 28 months also .. never got a roll off ... they waited and waited and in the process forgot java!! yes thats true .... now they know more abt domain than technology.... they are living in the hope of onsite.

you can do a few things : do your certs ,fight like hell with HR hoping for a miracle ... try to get in the parallel Java/J2ee capability teams where a no of open projects go on ..... but in most probable situation get out of it in 1 yr before you forget java.

i am only 6 months in this company but take my word from what i have seen : there is no guarantee.

just my two cents..
 
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Originally posted by pranav bhatt:
Thanks Rohit, i thaught of that only previously. But it dont allow you before completing 18 months.I don't want to stay for 1.5 years doing all that and learninig nothing... Anyway lets C what happens.. At presents i think going for SCJP would be gud.. watcha say...!!



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Hi pranav,
8 months is very long time to wait. But think in terms of future. There is no guarentee that new company will give you coding in java because you have no coding experience. SCJP is very common in market now-a-days and 1 year experienced is almost considered as a fresher. My suggestion is wait for 8 months and complete SCJP, SCWCD and as many certificates you can and then think about changing so that you will have knowledge and experience.
 
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This work really sucks man !!! M not even intrested to come to company for 1 day . Have to take some SOS steps.... May god help me...
 
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Change your job if you are frustrated. I dont see the need for you to stay in such a company. It's true you never know whether your next job might be better or worse, but hey...if I were you, I would rather take my chances and switch to another company rather than knowing for sure that I wouldnt have work for the next 8 months.

PS - I dont know whether you are in a bond for 18 months.
 
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I also think I know the company you are talking about. Had been there. Was kept in a frustrating support project where there was hardly anything to learn.

In order to get released after 18 months, start talks with your Manager now. 10 months is a perfect time. Ask him to release you if he cannot find a java project for you. Once you are on bench, it will be easier for you to find a java project.

But yes at your end, utilize this time to get SCJP and SCWCD at least. OOAD will also help. Every one likes to have in his team people who are self-starters, motivated, enthusiastic and eager to learn.

Try working on open source projects. Develop your own applications. In big MNCs you get to learn processes apart from technology.
 
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Thanks you all, now it seems there are some hopes still. Will talk to my HR then see how the things falls.Otherwise will leave the job and search for a new one :roll: .Yes on my end i'm preparing for SCJP as of now.Will go for others after that.Would be fine if i get into some java project soon .

In BTW-:
Try working on open source projects. Develop your own applications.

How should i go for this? join some institutes which offer projects training or what ??
Till now thanks to all of you for such nice suggestions..

If still you come up with something its always welcome.....
 
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Hi all,
Well tough luck friends Talked with my manager.. He's asking to quit or continue.... Wished i could him . Anyway have to sort out other ways soon now.. Wish me LUCK

[ December 10, 2006: Message edited by: pranav bhatt ]
[ December 10, 2006: Message edited by: pranav bhatt ]
 
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I would say youve probably gone in for a job too soon. You should wait for atleast an scjp. but also while youre in it now why now try certify in this seebeyond technology? It seems like it has good future?
 
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Hi all,
Hope some of you guys remem me !! I posted this thing a long back... Well in continuation of this am here to share my happiness that finally after a long run my project got changed.. now am into java application like you all..
Though its not a hard coding work over here but still a big stepping stone to my desired carrier-path..

Just tht's all Now life rocks
 
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Originally posted by pranav bhatt:
Hi all,
Hope some of you guys remem me !! I posted this thing a long back... Well in continuation of this am here to share my happiness that finally after a long run my project got changed.. now am into java application like you all..
Though its not a hard coding work over here but still a big stepping stone to my desired carrier-path..

Just tht's all Now life rocks



Thats nice to hear ! Good Luck
 
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I think I know the company you are working with. I also working for the same company. I joined this company three years back and got good projects in Java to work on. But I recently shifted to Hyd from Mumbai and it seems there are no much of Java projects running in hyd, so moved to bench.

I am also thinking of waiting for some time to get a project, otherwise I'll look for a change.

BTW, Are you in Bangalore?

Thanks,
Grishma
 
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