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Christophe Verré
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This may be difficult for an author to answer this but,
do you think you've managed to fit everything you wanted to into your book ?
Or do you feel you'd need more space to emphasize more on some topics ?
 
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As you aptly stated, an author's work is never finished. Alas, you do have to draw the line somewhere in the sand for commercial viability (not to mention in order to avoid total burnout from long hours).

Personally, I would have liked to add a lot more diagrams and polish the examples a little more. It would have been an interesting challenge to see if the latter chapters could be made more example driven. We could have added a bit more coverage on interesting topics like factors for choosing an application servers, clustering architectures, interesting integrations like making EJB 3 work with AJAX and so on. There were quite a few "side bars" that we wanted to add, but never really got around to it.
 
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Thank you for honestly answering my question.

the latter chapters could be made more example driven

I've read a few books which tend to get "boring" towards the end. Might be lack of time or lack of space. I hope yours is not falling into this category
[ March 15, 2007: Message edited by: Satou kurinosuke ]
 
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We don't think so . The problem is the nature of the content in part 4. It's just too ad-hoc/advanced to be organized into tidy examples to tie content together. In the end though, it's all in the eyes of the beholder...
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The problem is the nature of the content in part 4

Part 4 ? Could you please tell which chapter you are referring to ?
 
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Sure. Here is the full TOC:

1. What's what in EJB
2. A First taste of EJB
3. Building Business Logic with Session beans
4. Messaging and Developing Message Driven Beans
5. Learning Advanced EJB Concepts
6. Transactions and Security
7. Implementing Domain Models
8. Object-Relationship Mapping
9. Manipulating entities with EntityManager API
10. Using the Query API and the Java Persistence Query Language
11. Packaging EJB 3 Applications
12. Effectively Integrating EJB 3 across Your Application Tiers
13. Taming Wild EJBs - Performance and Scalability
14. Migrating to EJB 3
15. Exposing EJBs as Web Services
16. EJB 3 and Spring

Appendix A. RMI and JNDI
Appendix B. Reviewing relational databases
Appendix C. Annotations reference
Appendix D. Deployment descriptors reference
Appendix E. Installing and configuring the Java EE 5 SDK

Part 1 is chapter 1 and 2. Part 2 is chapters 3 through 6. Part 3 is chapters 7 through 10. Part 4 is chapters 11 through 16. As I mentioned, once you get past chapter 12, the content is just too advanced to be neatly put into tutorial format. Nothing is impossible though...
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actually chapter 11 - 13 is Part 4 ("Putting EJB 3 In Action") and Chapter 14-16 Part 5 ("Migration and Interoperability")

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Thank you for replying.
I see. People who want to know about EJB3 will be more interested in Part1-3, and maybe Part4, while Part5 is about advanced topics.
 
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Debu:

Whoops! Sorry my bad I forgot we added a part later in the game .

Reza
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Satou:

Actually chapter 15 is about web services support through JAX-WS in EJB 3. I think most "beginners" would still be pretty interested in this. We refer to chapter 15 in the early chapters though...

The EJB 3/Spring discussion I think is a must for anyone reading the book too, as is the tiers discussion, although both these chapters are not "A-B-C of EJB 3" material strictly speaking.

Reza
 
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Originally posted by Reza Rahman:
There were quite a few "side bars" that we wanted to add, but never really got around to it.


Reading this thread, sounds the author trying to cover everything.

How about split the book? make a sequel? like most Apress title, beginner and pro. Rather than reading technical advices (maybe work, maybe not), I prefer tutorial style.
 
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Anthony:

Actually, we might do a sequel if the book is commercially sucessful. It won't be a smaller tutorial style book though, it'll be a JPA book or a certification book.

Our opinion was that all material to teach the basics should be presented in a tutorial style, no matter what the depth and coverage of the book...and we also wanted to put out everything that all three of us could and make it a comprehensive book...

Reza
 
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It is good that this book has e-format.
It is cheaper (half price!)
It is light weight no matter how much contents are in there.
And it is instant delivery.
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
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