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Job Offer: The Netherlands

 
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Hi JavaRanchers,

Recently I've got an offer to work in The Netherlands.

I've 4+ Years of exp. on Java/J2EE.

The salary will be 48K Euro/Annum.

Can you please tell me what is the cost of living for a single person and taxes there?

With this salary how much would I be able to save...?

Regards,
Kevin
 
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Hi Kevin,

I've been out of The Netherlands for too long now, so I can't advise on cost of living anymore. But from memory this sounds like a decent salary.

You have not mentioned where you want to live / where you will be working. If you are living and working in Amsterdam then the cost will be higher than if you are living and working in Maarsen. Depending on where you are working you might find a nearby town where you can live that is relatively cheap but is an easy commute to work.

As a side note, I've never understood the question "how much will I be able to save". It is just such an open question. Do you intend to live like a hermit and never go out? Do you intend to share a house with 4 other people? Do you intend to bring wife and family with you? Do you intend to take advantage of the 6 weeks vacation a year and go and see Europe in all it's splendor? Every single question I've asked will have a huge impact on how much you can save, so the original question has no context for me.

Regards, Andrew
 
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Perhaps another way to look at these sorts of questions is by looking at the Big Mac Index and use this as an indicator of purchasing power parity. Based on this you can get a very rough feeling for how much you might spend in a different country based on how much you are spending at the moment, everything else remaining equal. I have successfully used this when changing countries, and have used the data based on this as a negotiating point when discussing salaries.

Of course, this concept relies on everything else remaining equal, and as I mentioned in my previous post, this may not be the case: just the changes in the amount of holidays per year and the cost of visiting family may change the whole equation.

Regards, Andrew
 
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Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the reply.

I agree that my question "How much would I be able to save" is unwarranted as it largely depends on individual choice.

Actually, I would like to know the break of living cost there...most probably the city would be Amsterdam...By living cost I mean cost of basic needs like House Rent, Transportation, Internet, Telephone, Car, Entertainment etc...

How much would be tax on this income?

I would appreciate if you can please let me know the break up of living cost in Amsterdam...as you seems to have stayed there...

Thanks,
Kevin
 
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Hi Kevin,

Sorry, I am really of little help here. I lived in Maarssen which is a very small village (40 thousand people in the greater Maarssen area) about 40 minutes by train from Amsterdam. Conveniently for me it was only 10 minute bike ride to work and 1/2 hour bike ride to the city of Utrecht - which is where I went if I wanted to go to the city. I rarely ventured in Amsterdam - it really didn't hold that big an attraction for me.

So, for a start I was in a small village, so my costs would have been significantly different from those in any city. In addition this was all back in the days of the Guilder - long before the Euro came out.

As for transportation - I strongly recommend against getting a car. Most Dutch people I knew had 2 bikes: the �10 commuter for work (I assume that would be close to �5) and a good bike (often in excess of �1000) for riding around on weekends. Holland is built for biking - it is rare that you have to share the bike lane with anybody except other bicyclists, and car drivers are very much aware of, and very good with bicyclists.Side note: there are also a lot of Dutch people who have 2 commuter bicycles - 1 to get them to the railway station in the morning, and another one at the destination railway station to get them between there and work
Both the trains and bus systems are extremely reliable (or at least they were when I was there). I can remember laughing at people who would get very irate if the trains were as much as 2 minutes late. When you consider that trains have to mesh perfectly so that the international trains continue to run on time, it is not so surprising.

Which brings me to my other point about not having a car: it is really easy to jump between countries on a train or plane, usually far more convenient, and far cheaper. Why get a car when you have the problems of huge taxes for cars, dealing with different road rules in different countries, and trying to find parking spaces in different countries (not to mention around Holland - it is extremely difficult to find parking in most suburban areas). Save yourself a huge amount of money and stick with the good reliable public transport!

As to some of your other questions - I think rent for me was around �1000 a month for a really nice, fully furnished, 2 bedroom apartment in a nice part of a nice village. Obviously this was some time ago, and if you are going for a single bedroom apartment or a studio apartment, or non fully furnished, or you are going to share ... this is all going to change.

I really don't remember how much internet and telephone were. Entertainment was relatively cheap - �10 for a movie, �15 - �20 for a good meal out (and there are some great restaurants in Holland).

Hopefully someone who has more recent knowledge and/or more local to where you want to live can give better ideas on costs.

Regards, Andrew
 
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For your question on tax - take a look at the Wikipedia article on income tax in the Netherlands.

Regards, Andrew
 
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Andrew,

It is very exciting to know about Netherland. Also good to know they are using bikes like india(offcourse we use more scooter) not like US, where everybody has to have Car.

So when compare life between US and Netherland, which one is better from comfort and money perspective?
 
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Hmmm - perhaps I had better clarify what I mean by bike - I mean something that is human powered:



Scooters are not unheard of, nor are motor bikes. But they are less common than cars or bikes.

As for which is better: yes. Seriously, there is no perfect answer to that. Both countries have good points that the other does not.

Regards, Andrew
 
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So when compare life between US and Netherland, which one is better from comfort and money perspective?
I had been there some days.
I think the Netherland is more comfort,But Conside money,maybe US has more chance.
[ July 27, 2007: Message edited by: Shoumin Li ]
 
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Salary levels are definitely higher in the US than in the NL (or just about all European countries). On the other hand, vacation time in the US is generally much less, and -of course- price levels are different, so a direct USD-to-EUR comparison of the salary doesn't mean much.
 
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I think Europe Pays higher then US, if we compare international price?
 
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Originally posted by Jignesh Patel:
I think Europe Pays higher then US, if we compare international price?



What do you mean by "international price"? Adjusted according to the Big Mac Index?

As I said, pay levels in Europe are generally lower than in the USA.
 
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Adjusted according to the Big Mac Index?



Yes true!!
 
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In Europe you get to travel around.
 
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