regarding the salary in Colombia...

[Milton Ochoa]

Hi.

I dont know if here exist people from Colombia, who know more or less, How much salary i can expect in Colombia if im a SCJP at least?

I would like to know from you guys, how much i can expect if i recently (one year) I finished my Study of Carrer ?

Thanks in advance.

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called him self "eight -a"

[Jose Campana]

Hola Milton,

Yo soy colombiano, como le va hermano?
Su pregunta no puede tener una respuesta concreta, creo que ac� en Latinoamerica en general las empresas buscan gente con experiencia. De acuerdo a lo que yo he visto, Si usted se ha abierto campo y tiene a�os verificables de trabajo, hasta puede fijar cual va a ser su salario (Obviamente dentro de lo coherente), Pienso que ser SCJP le da una gran ventaja, pero no lo es todo. Como lo dice el mismo concepto del ex�men, SCJP solo demuestra comprensi�n b�sica del Lenguaje.

Si usted est� empezando... y va a tomar su primer empleo, no espere a que le pagen mas de un mill�n de pesos. (pero quien sabe, puede que hasta tenga suerte)
Me parece que en Bogot� se mueve mas el desarrollo de software, Actualmente yo tambi�n ando con la espectativa de encontrar un empleo en este campo, pero en Medell�n. Si sabe de algun puesto me comenta

Actualmente ando por Ecuador(Quito) y me ha ido bien. Hay mucho trabajo para gente que domina el lenguaje Java, Contrario al mercado para la gente de .NET que est� saturado.

Que le vaya bien,
Jose

PD. I don't know If I'm actually violating any rules by posting in Spanish, I just felt like doing so, but If it's forbidden it won't happen again.
Sorry.
[ January 10, 2008: Message edited by: Jose Campana ]

[Jesper de Jong]

This belongs in Jobs Discussion, so I'll move it there.

[Mark Herschberg]

Please reply in English, as that is the official language of JavaRanch. This way your response is available to others who wish to read your response.

--Mark

[Milton Ochoa]

Jose very thanks for you answer.

...then im counting with luck, because i have only 7 month of experience on laboral working, and no yet i SCJP (but i will soon), and my salary it aproximatly 1.5 Millon.

How much my salary will ingrease if i become SCJP? what do you think?

PD. Please dont delete the post of Jose.

[Jose Campana]

Hiya there! Milton

Sorry for the delayed response.
The answer to your question is very difficult to determine, given that when talking about payment it depends strictly on what a specific company is looking for.
You already had a great start and your current salary is pretty good for a beginner.
Having an SCJP will definitely make you stand out in a Software market that's already enormous, Being certified says a lot of things, specially that you're smart, and very serious about your job. But like I said sometimes I have felt that software companies in Colombia and Latin America in general expect that candidates have at least 2 years of experience in very specific software development tasks in order to consider him/her for those kinds You're probably aspiring for, (You know the ones that pay over 3 million).
I'd say you're going in the Right track, and with a prestigious certification such as SCJP, you should be able to charge at least 2M o 2.3M.
Just don't go to a job interview and demand to be paid as If you were the best programmer on earth. Keep it cool, and amazing things will happen.

That's what I think.
By the way,
We should stay in touch, I need to have as many contacts as I can in Colombia (You never know).

Where do you live in Colombia?

Best Regards,
Your Friend,
Jose
[ January 11, 2008: Message edited by: Jose Campana ]

[Milton Ochoa]

Very Thank again Jose.

Well, I born in Cartagena, but, i dont know if you know, in my city exist a very low level on laboral demand, and i dont wanna are unployed.

In the moment in that I finish my carrer, the next week i was flying to Bogot�, and actually I am working here. Thank to God.

I agree with you, about the last thing you said. about to be in touch. (we never know)

Sendme a private message to give you my personal email.

By the way, there in Ecuador, how is the job?

[Jose Campana]

Yes, Bogot� it's the place to be!
It's where the software development business actually moves, I had been trying to go to Colombia and get a job there, and believe me, it will eventually happen.
Ecuador is a great place for software developers/programmers. So far I've done really well, there are LOTS of jobs for Java programmers in here! believe me, a LOTS. The reason is that, for every .Net developer you have only 1 Java Programmer, And there are even fewer programmers Who are Actually REALLY Good at programming using Java, I've a known a few....
I had the luck of starting at the best job, so now my reputation here is Great, and in the past 3 months I've had like 5 or 6 job proposals. So, it's great around here.
I'm not entirely sure about my plans for this year, But I'd love to get a Job in Colombia, But If I get a Job there, like I said before, I would only take it if it's in Medellin. There are more job opportunities in Bogot� but, the city is just too damn Big and busy for me. I used to like it, but not anymore...
The other option is Cali. But the weather is just like living in hell, so... No, ha ha ha ha

I'll send you a private message now...

See you,
Jose