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Big 5 Guys Here ??

 
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Any Guys from The Big 5 on this Board ?? I am one and I just wanted to have a General feeling abt how Techies in the other Big 5 Feel abt the work and other issues.
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The big 5? Sorry for the massive density, it's a genetic thing.
 
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I work for KPMG Consulting. Since we broke off of KPMG LLP, I am not sure that we qualify as one of the big 5 anymore. At any rate there is a relatively small amount of Java work compared to other consulting, but I am hoping that will change for me personally as I learn about Tibco adapters.
I hope this was the sort of reply you were looking for.
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From what I've gathered, the "Big 5" refers to a group of consulting firms that dominated the business/accounting consultancy industry for years. Though it's not clear there's still a "Big 5" any more, since several of the key firms have reorganized since the name was coined. The canonical Big 5 appear to be: Arthur Andersen, Deloitte & Touche, Ernst & Young, KPMG, and Pricewaterhouse Coopers. I found an article commenting on the current status of the Big 5 here.
 
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Thats Right,Jim. Those are the Big 5 and its quite a debate if they Still rule the Corporate World. But we will keep that for some other day.
Great to see u,Paul. How long have u been in KCI and do u know other Big 5 techies as to give us a comparative analysis. I have heard among the Big 5, KPMG Consulting is one of the lowest paying, if not the Lowest. Is that true ??
Thanx
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I'm with "Toilet & Douche", LLP.
We have a technology office in North Dallas and we're all learning java.
Some of us slower than others, though.
(edited because spelling is HARD...)
[This message has been edited by Greg Tuck (edited May 03, 2001).]
 
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Paul,
Just a quick note: I worked with a team of KPMG consultants last summer in a project here in NY. All those guys were from Boston and I just enjoyed that experience: skill level of those guys, their readiness to help a peer is unmatched.
Regards,
--Alex
 
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Thats Good to know. Even I felt the same actually. The fun part in working in a Big 5 are the people here. Its just amazing to work and learn with them.
 
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Jim: That article is relatively old. We're talked about as "one foot out the door", when we've been out the door (i.e. broken off from the LLP) for nearly three months.
Tintin: I have been at KCIN for about six months. I don't know if we are the lowest paying or not, but I feel that I am well paid for what I do. It sounds like you work for a "Big 5" as well. Which one?
Daniel: Sorry about the bad experience, hope it wasn't us. I should think that testing should be part of the contract. A big oops, if it is not. Where are you at?
Alex: Gee, thanks, it's always nice to hear good things about my company, even I wasn't personally involved.
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Originally posted by Glen Tanner:
Nice spin on the name, Greg. That ranks right up there with the big 3's Genital Motors.


You know, I really wonder what they were thinking. They merged "Deloitte, Haskins, & Sells" with "Touche Ross" by taking the MOST obnoxious names from each...
Oh well...that was a LONG time ago.
 
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Originally posted by Daniel Dunleavy:
Paul,
I am an independent, and have worked at different companies where these incidents occured. I won't name names, but yours wasn't one of the companies. Hopefully your company is a lot better. Over the years I have heard some of these companies stopped hiring people from the "right school" with no technical knowledge into their technical groups.
Actually I have met a great number of skilled people who were not schooled in technology, and are now good IT people. But I don't think you should be charging clients 100+ an hour for someone who can't even get the coffee machine to work, let alone a computer. All the low level workers were totally unskilled. Once they had a little knowledge they would be promoted and sent off at a higher rate to some other client. So basically you never have anyone programming who knows what they are doing.
Dan


One of the things that Deloitte Consulting does right is that DC people don't do coding. We design, and manage, and perform QA, but the actual coding tasks are done by contractors, who are (supposed to be, at least...) experienced in the specific tools being used on the project. And we try to keep track of contractors so we can screen out the poor performers and reuse the high performers from project to project.
I said this works RIGHT and that is usually the case - I also have been on projects where the contractors were part of the problem. The QA effort HAS to have a very high priority. Issues usually arise when QA is given short shrift in order to "keep costs down" (like a lousy $40 million system is somehow better than a functional $50 million system) or "to make the deadline" (good QA SAVES time in the long run, IMHO).
 
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But apart from DC, all the rest are into Implementation as well as the Design, though they sometime do take Contractors if the Deadline is difficult to meet or if they dont know enough people with the right skills.
Earlier, even my view was that these Big 5 are just into Design, Architecture,e-Strategy and maybe QA but now being in one of them, i know PWC, Accenture and KPMG Consulting are into Big-time Implementation as well. Not sure abt the rest 2
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Not enough research , I guess. Where was this BTW ??
 
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Yep, I guess u r right. but when these companies just cant see a money-minting oppurtunity go by. they want their hands in every pie.
Didnt want any names, just wanted to check which side of the Atlantic was this.
 
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Here's some news guys. My company(Big 5) has decided to lay off 10-15% of its workforce all over UK. Have to start sending CV to other Big 4 now
 
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