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Our local philosopher turns greenhorn again?

 
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Here.

Also his name survived some mutations... Good news that his brain remain undamaged, though � �Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof� � doesn�t make sense, as usual. Great. Unless I missed some profundity here, if anything can be missed in Johnson�s posts at all!
 
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He's quoting Jesus...I'll post the scripture tomorrow.
Most of what he says is not original and sometimes just to spice it up he mixes a few things together.

[This message has been edited by Joseph Russell (edited May 16, 2001).]
 
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I see all the makings of a cult here: This new religion called Chongism is gaining immense popularity... This is mostly an underground organization (something like the Fight Club)... the followers make their presence known by adopting names derived from that of their Master...
I have secretly witnessed their rituals (something like in Eyes Wide Shut). A loud gong announces the presence of the Master, and the whole congregation goes silent. When the Master walks in, all the followers fall to the ground in reverence. Then He speaks. His voice full of a strange kindness... He proclaims that He has seen the light, and the light shall be seen by all those who believe in Him... bringing freedom to the oppressed souls, and happiness to this wonderful world. The discourse is moving. The devotees weep with an inexplicable joy... when the Master leaves, they arise... their faces radiant, determined to spread the faith... the One True Way - the Way of Chongism.

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Joseph, thanks! So this one actually makes sense... I read somewhere that there was a tradition in medieval Japan: when somebody reached the next level of his spiritual development, he took another name, because a new personality required a new name � maybe that what happened with our Johnson...
Nanjangud, I think you are mistaken... There cannot be any rituals in Chongism... No loud gongs announcing the presence of the Master... The Master is always with us... Will never leave... �I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth...�
 
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Hey MAP,
It amuses me to see the way you treat Johnson eveytime he comes up with a post. Is he your pet peeve or do his philpsophical utterings stir the non-confirmist in you.....
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Everytime he comes up with a post? I believed I commented Johnson's missionary activity much less than others. Actually this was my first comment. There are people who understand Him much better than Map...
Eager Beaver, you underestimate the Master. Believe me, you do.
 
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Mattew 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
(KJV)
 
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�I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth...�
That sounded like Nietzsche but I searched for it and found Umberto Eco, the Italian writer.
Believe me, Map... I have been there, I have witnessed the phenomenon, I have seen the Truth. Sahir, a prominent Chongist, might help us understand this better

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Ok, Nanjangud-Nanhesru, you are now in danger too...
Umberto Eco is a prominent semiotician, writing is only hobby... Something comprehensible for us, ignoramus crowd...
By the way, Nanhesru, your triangle problem... Was there the Master behind it? What was the point of your puzzle? You led us to intermediate answer, but not to full understanding... Do you understand WHAT is your puzzle? Or WHAT it could be? Or you are only a toy in Master�s palms?

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Originally posted by Nanjangud Nanjundaiah:
the followers make their presence known by adopting names derived from that of their Master...


Yes I noticed it too. I just saw a post by someone calling himself Johannes de Jong
http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/000532.html
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Gee, I never noticed. Do you think that they are related??
At least Johannes doesn't have to rename himself every few weeks!
Plus his posts make lots of sense.
 
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Sense is a relative term Cindy. Chong is the personification of Camus' absurd hero.
"The absurd is born of the confrontation between the human need and the unreasonable silence of the world"
Le Mythe de Sisyphe. Albert Camus [1913-1960]
Camus doesnt make much sense to us either, does he ?
 
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I wonder if you are Chong himself Sahir...
 
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Joseph, Sahir seems want to make us think that he is Johnson. He almost admitted it. Looks suspicious.
 
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>Umberto Eco is a prominent semiotician
Boy, is that his profession? Did you know semioticians are part-time morticians
>your triangle problem... Was there the Master behind it?
No, the Master does not bother Himself with such trivia, He has greater problems on hand. However...
>What was the point of your puzzle?
The triangles problem was a subliminable attempt to bring your mind to contemplate on the greater triangle we all experience in our life: Mind, Body and God. Here is one such analysis.
>You led us to intermediate answer, but not to full understanding...
I can only show you the Path, my dear. Whether that leads you to salvation depends on your karmic evolution.
>Do you understand WHAT is your puzzle? Or WHAT it could be?
All of human life is a puzzle. This is merely a contrivance to open inner windows into our minds; giving us better insight, and fuller understanding.
>Or you are only a toy in Master�s palms?
No, actually I am planning on starting my own cult. Interested?

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Is Sahir Chong ?
Is Chong Sahir ?
<FORM>
<INPUT type="button" value="Click here to view a picture of Chong" onClick="window.open('http://www.geocities.com/sahirshah/aaargh.html','x','width=300,height=250')">
</FORM>

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Oooooooooooooooooooh...
But there are still questions.
Who is Sahir?
Who is Johnson?
Most important: who is the Master?
 
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>The triangles problem was a subliminable attempt to bring your mind to contemplate on the greater triangle we all experience in our life: Mind, Body and God.
This interpretation is also possible. But this is only derivation. I'd prefer to use the term �Nature� which encloses Mind, Body and God, and Nature is "triangling", not "squaring" as we used to think. When you are ready, the Master will contact you personally and then you will have fuller understanding. Until the Contact happens, read this.
>I can only show you the Path, my dear. Whether that leads you to salvation depends on your karmic evolution.
There is no Path. There are paths, and no one is better than another...
>No, actually I am planning on starting my own cult. Interested?
No. I must find a truth that is true for me. No need for cults. We are only players in The Great Glass Bead Game.
 
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I wonder what will happen when the original Chong returns to find an usurper on his throne ?

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Nanjangud Nanjundaiah
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>Umberto Eco is a prominent semiotician
Boy, is that his profession? Did you know semioticians are part-time morticians
>your triangle problem... Was there the Master behind it?
No, the Master does not bother Himself with such trivia, He has greater problems on hand. However...
>What was the point of your puzzle?
The triangles problem was a subliminable attempt to bring your mind to contemplate on the greater triangle we all experience in our life: Mind, Body and God. Here is one such analysis.



I wonder if Nanjangud Nanjundaiah is a Turkish?
His post's link is a Turkish website yuksel.org
I was Turkish, may be I am Nanjangud Nanjundaiah LOL
 
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..thus I lived a lifetime without knowing if Oedipus faced up to the horrible revelation, or what became of the six characters in search of an author, whether Oswald Alving was cured thanks to penicillin, if Hamlet finally discovered that to be was better than not to be. I still don't know who the real Signora Ponza was ,...
How It Begins, How It Ends. by Umberto Eco


 
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Hhhmmmmm... As far as I know only Jim can speak Italian...
 
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>There are paths, and no one is better than another
The world is full of paths. But the simplest of all is the Path. Understanding Fuller may lead you to fuller understanding... but eventually the triangulation of the polyhedral lattices will start driving you crazy, and everything would seem so much like meaningless drivel.
>No need for cults
All cults start with a seemingly benign intention: the emancipation of the masses. It's only when the members decide to hop on the nearest comet and visit Jupiter, there'd be some problems...
Hey Ersin, looks like we've found the real Signora Ponza. You better let professor Eco know, he must still be looking.

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Originally posted by Nanjangud Nanjundaiah:

Hey Ersin, looks like we've found the real Signora Ponza. You better let professor Eco know,


And Angela too.
Looks like its the Master (of mysterious posts) again.
He spouts foreign again, Angela.
 
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Hhhmmmmm... As far as I know only Jim can speak Italian...


Yeah, all those folks in Italy only think they're speaking Italian; I'm just too nice to point out all their errors to them.
I believe Ersin recently mentioned knowing a bit of the language as well, so you have at least one more suspect. The phrases used are pretty basic; it could well be someone with limited knowledge of the language. However la Signora does not seem to be posting from the same IP address as Ersin, so who knows? I'm too lazy to look up everyone's IP address to check other folks. And anyway, one person can use multiple IP addresses, so it's of limited use.
 
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"Ah ( I must admit )
...I am in a state of confusion, signorina.
...I had the vision...oh,I wish it were
only of a chaos of contradictions -the reassuring
contradictions...No, it's the vision
of a confused soul..."

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Guys,
Please keep your posts in English!! I've just had to delete one non-english post and edit another. Javaranch rule that even applies to Meaningless Drivel "All posts MUST be in English".
 
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Also further investigation has proved that this new incarnation of Johnson is indeed Sahir Shah ... who is also Sahir Shibley Now I just need to identify who's been impersonating other people using unregistered names ... it seems that Sahir is not guilty on that part!
 
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May I ask you: what is the original when originals no longer exist?
 
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Ullo, ullo , ullo , I got nothing to do with either the Chongs or the Chongsons. Also I never said Sahir Shah and Sahir Shibley and Sahir Shah Shibley arent one person. Its the same as saying John Fitzgerald , John Kennedy and John Fitzgerald Kennedy are three different people. I had to use my first name and middle name because I coudnt remember the password for the Sahir Shibley ID .

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Not accusing you of anything ... just proving that I can find out lots of really useful stuff!! Nothing wrong with using multiple names as long as they all conform to the naming guidelines where that is required!
You have nothing to do the Johnson Chongson?? I have evidence to the contrary!! Doesn't matter really .. I'm just pleased I figured it out .. I was actually investigating someone else (out mysterious impersonator .. who will also be name when I figure it out) but came accross evidence that you were indeed Chongson! But not Chong!
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No its not that? Its just that I do not want to be thought of as a Chongson type , maybe a Chong type , beause Chong is a great philosopher. My stock value just dropped 10 points when you announced I wasnt Chong.
 
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Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:

No its not that? Its just that I do not want to be thought of as a Chongson type , maybe a Chong type , beause Chong is a great philosopher. My stock value just dropped 10 points when you announced I wasnt Chong.


Liar Liar. Pants on fire.
 
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Maybe it's a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing ... and he doesn't ever remember being Chongson!
 
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