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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
The cost of executing McVeigh was estimated at $15 million so keeping him in prison at $50,000 per year for 100 years would only be 1/10 of the cost of executing him.
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Originally posted by Greg Harris:
i really believe that if we had tougher penalties like some middle eastern or asian countries do then our crime rate would go down! we are just too damn concerned with protecting everybody's "feelings." we have become too soft on crime.
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Wait a minute, I'm trying to think of something clever to say...<p>Joel
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Many people who serve prison terms are deterred from repating their crimes. It is true that their is a high rate of repeat felons but the rate is certainly not close to 100%. Also, deterrence includes not only deterring criminals from committing crimes again but also deterring you and me from committing crimes in the first place. Deterrence certainly works for that purpose. There is also simply the issue of justice. It is just that people who commit crimes pay for them. In fact, the only argument that makes sense for the death penalty is the question of justice.Originally posted by Joel Cochran:
There are two theories of punishment, Deterrent and Retributive.
To quote Joseph Conrad ... "Oh the Humanity!"
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Many people who serve prison terms are deterred from repating their crimes. It is true that their is a high rate of repeat felons but the rate is certainly not close to 100%.
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Originally posted by sravana reddibathini:
I think the concept of putting some body in prison or executing him/her is wrong.
prison should be a place where criminals are reformed.
it should develop sense of love and understanding for the fellow humun beings.
why not Govt think on these lines?.
when we are able to send space crafts to mars , why not modern science look at ways and means to change the psychology of a criminal and make him a better humun being.
did the relatives and friends of McVeigh's victims got real closure by seeinf him die.
i only feel they are as cruel as him.
i would have never watched him die if my sis/bro/mom/dad were one of his victims.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
The cost of executing McVeigh was estimated at $15 million so keeping him in prison at $50,000 per year for 100 years would only be 1/10 of the cost of executing him.
Stupid MicroSoft calculator!Originally posted by Cal Q. Lator:
uhh dude... 1/3.
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I'm not sure what you mean. The point is that prison is not a perfect deterrent. I have a feeling that for some people there could never be a perfect deterrent. But for many people, having served time in prison they will lead honest lives in order to stay out of prison.Originally posted by Joseph Russell:
I have a lot of respect for you Thomas, but what kind of logic is that?
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Christians actually have 2 parts to the Bible... the Old Testament and the New Testament. Christians didn't stop reading whern they finished Exodus. Jesus said that you must love your neighbor as you love yourself. He didn't say you must love your neighbor unless he killed someone. Justification for the death penalty must come from love and justice not vengance.Originally posted by Greg Harris:
so, when these anti-death penalty people get on t.v. and say that they are christians and that the death penalty is inhumane... they obviously did not get very far in their bible! this is in the second book... a law from the beginning of time.
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As cruel as someone who without any provocation murdered 168 men, women, and children?Originally posted by sravana reddibathini:
I did the relatives and friends of McVeigh's victims got real closure by seeinf him die.
i only feel they are as cruel as him.
Originally posted by sravana reddibathini:
i would have never watched him die if my sis/bro/mom/dad were one of his victims.
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I think the concept of putting some body in prison or executing him/her is wrong.
prison should be a place where criminals are reformed.
it should develop sense of love and understanding for the fellow humun beings.
did the relatives and friends of McVeigh's victims got real closure by seeinf him die.
i only feel they are as cruel as him.
i would have never watched him die if my sis/bro/mom/dad were one of his victims.
sravana.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Christians actually have 2 parts to the Bible... the Old Testament and the New Testament. Christians didn't stop reading whern they finished Exodus. Jesus said that you must love your neighbor as you love yourself. He didn't say you must love your neighbor unless he killed someone. Justification for the death penalty must come from love and justice not vengance.
As the wise man once said, "eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth" leads to a lot of one-eyed people wearing dentures.
Wait a minute, I'm trying to think of something clever to say...<p>Joel
To me, the key is justice. And truthfully, the historical context of an "eye for an eye" is that justice should be done. At the time, it was quite common to execute people for what we consider trivial offenses. "eye for an eye" really means that the punishment must fit the crime. Justice must be done. I don't find any other argument for the death penalty convincing other than the question of justice. Was it just that a man who murdered 168 people had his life taken from him? I would be hard pressed to argue that justice was not served.Originally posted by Joel Cochran:
I think that the only true deterrent is as swift and harsh a punishment as befits the crime. But that is just me... since there seems to be no end in sight for the "innocent man" concerns (which are truly justified), then I don't see any real reform in our punitive system any time soon.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Was it just that a man who murdered 168 people had his life taken from him? I would be hard pressed to argue that justice was not served.
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Associate Instructor - Hofstra University
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Associate Instructor - Hofstra University
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