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No.Originally posted by Manku Thimma:
Do you believe in the paranormal?
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No, bored. People who believe in the paranormal bore me because they are willing to believe anything without any supporting evidence. Try reading "The Skeptical Inquirer".Originally posted by Manku Thimma:
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Tom, you sound terse. Almost scared.
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So a family of huge animals have been living in Loch Ness for thousands of years and not a single skeleton has ever washed ashore? What would they eat? There is little food in the Loch.Originally posted by Dave Vick:
What about things like the Loch Ness monster and bigfoot?
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I agree. But if you personally experience something which has not been explained, would you accept that that phenomenon was indeed "paranormal"?People who believe in the paranormal bore me because they are willing to believe anything without any supporting evidence
Yes. Ever heard of dowsing, also known as water-divining? Here usually a stick or a metal rod is used to locate naturally occurring underground water sources. I learnt how to dowse from my uncle - he had successfully used it to locate good water sources in his farm, for a borewell. Maybe learnt is not the right word. He helped me discover my dowsing ability. We used a copper rod bent into the shape of a V, with the ends bent again to form a handle. By stiffly holding this rod almost vertical, and slowly walking around the field, a strange thing happens when I reach an underground water source. The rod vigorously turns down to point towards the ground. Let me tell you this: the sensation through the body, and the arms when this happens is amazing, beautiful, stimulating. Very clearly I have no control over what happens - it simply is an involuntary muscular reaction that turns the rod down.Does any one have instances to recount.
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Originally posted by Bodie Minster:
Ghosts: Absolutely. I lived in a haunted house as a kid. If anybody wants details, I'll be happy to elaborate. Also, it kind of fits in with my religous beliefs that after people die, they continue to exist as sentient beings.
Loch Ness Monster: I wish, but maybe not. It's an intersting possibility.
1)Recent fish surveys indicate that the density of fish in Loch Ness is sufficient to support a predatory species at the top of the food chain there.
2)Fish float when they die because they have flotile bladders. Mammals and reptiles that swim don't float when dead because they have no similar organ. Therefore, it is more likely that dead monsters would sink than wash up on shore. Bigfoot: Maybe, but I think this is less likely.
Apatosaurus in the Congo: Maybe, but I doubt it.
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Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
Why does the US government train and research remote viewing?
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Started? Actually some law enforcement agencies have been doing this for years but never to any result. "You will find the body near running water" and when they find the body in a warehouse near a leaky faucet the "psychic" claims success.Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
Why have law enforcment agencies started consulting psychics?
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Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
I mean the Russians researched this stuff for years, probably because they were a bunch of Godless communists idiots.
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Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
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I was being facetious.
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He is a fraud. He does what is called cold-reading and has been used by magicians for a little over 150 years. The fact that this guy tricks people who are hurting over the loss of a loved one in order to make money shows what a bottom feeding scum he is.Originally posted by Manku Thimma:
Has anyone seen 'Crossing Over' with John Edward, on the Sci-Fi channel? Here he actually claims to be communicating with departed souls, and brings messages of hope to the loved ones sitting in the audience. I've seen a couple episodes. He did make a few statements which seemed quite out of the way to be just pure coincidence. He's a very slick trickster, or he's onto something...
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No. There is no such thing as the paranormal so there is nothing to "accept". For example, if I saw ghosts I would be more concerned about the state of my mental health than I would be about the existence of ghosts.Originally posted by Manku Thimma:
>[b]Dowsing is also called "wishful thinking".
Tom, lemme ask you this question again: If you personally experience something which has not been explained, would you accept that that phenomenon was indeed "paranormal"? [/B]
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Originally posted by Bodie Minster:
According to the report published here:
Bean, C.W., Winfield, I.J. and Fletcher, J.M. (1996) Stock assessment of the Arctic charr (Salvelinus alpinus) population in Loch Ness, U.K. Stock Assessment in Inland Fisheries (Ed. I. G. Cowx), Fishing News Books, Oxford: Blackwell, Scientific Publications
there are sufficient fish to support a small population of predators in Loch Ness.
Originally posted by Bodie Minster:
Whale carcasses are often on beaches because the whales swim in close to shore to die. Currents in shallow coastal waters ( OF THE OCEAN ) often wash debris on shore. If all dead animals floated, there wouldn't be any fossils of marine animals.
Originally posted by Bodie Minster:
Several marine mammals are adept at "holding their breath". Or in other words, they are adapted to require surfacing much less often than we might think. For example, several species of Rorquals (whales that have baleen) can hold their breath for over an hour.
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Actually you have it exactly backwards. Your kind of belief system is what held people in the the thrall of magic and astrology and kept civilization in the Dark Ages. It is belief in the mystical, unexplainable, and unverifiable that locks man in ignorance. I can easily be fooled. A saw a magician saw a woman in half and then put her back together. Must be the power of the paranormal, right?Originally posted by Bodie Minster:
Thomas, don't you find it a little depressing not to believe in anything you can't explain? Isn't it a little arrogant to think that if you don't understand something or can't explain it that it must not be reality? That sort of thinking would have halted the progress of civilization hundreds of years ago if we all subscribed to it.
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Yes there are. There are laws of physics that would have to be violated in order for these things to happen. There is no scientific evidence to support any of these paranormal claims. Whenever these claims are exposed to the light of science, they shrivel up and die.Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
Some things are not well established but there is no science that precludes the existence of these phenomenon.
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Yes there are. There are laws of physics that would have to be violated in order for these things to happen. There is no scientific evidence to support any of these paranormal claims. Whenever these claims are exposed to the light of science, they shrivel up and die.
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