Originally posted by Ken Bates:
5) Although some U.S business would be hurt if we used as little oil as possible the Middle East would be devestated. Their economies run soley on oil.
4) This really showw that you do not have knowledge in this field. It okay that you are not knowledgeable, but do not pretend to be. You are saying if we use less oil it will not affect OPEC. This is patently wrong. Will it affect them today?
Yes, it will if you know about commondities. Will it affect them 6 months from now? Yes, because if we use less oil we buy less oil.
5) I have mentioned several times that the idea is to start with a day and then get this notion on peoples mind that buying oil for the next several months is bad. If people used 10% less gas in the next 6 months it would translate in to hundreds of billions of dollars lost in the Middle East. Will people in the Middle East starve? No and this is not the point. The point is to give the Middle East a wake up call that this is their problem as well. If fact, it was all their probelm, but they refused to do anything about it and now we are once again forced to act. By the way the people who stand the most to lose would be the people who would be most influencial.
7) I'm sorry but you really don't have knowledge of economics. You state if we stop using oil it will hurt our economy more than the Middle Easts economy! You must be kidding. You must understand that 100% of their captial comes from oil. In 100 years when the oil runs out that region will be decimated. Our ecomomy will not be decimated 100 years from now when oil runs out, because we don't have a 1-sided economy. If we started using less oil would it hurt certain companies like Exxon? Yes. But it would hurt the Middle East thousand of times more.
For the last decade or so, Gulf monarchies have invested higher percentages of oil profits in land, hotels, real estate, factories, and other enterprises in the U.S., Europe, Japan, and elsewhere. As a result, increasing income of the oil-exporting states is linked to profits from unrelated businesses in oil-importing states rather than from the sale of oil itself. This gives the Gulf oil states some stake in keeping oil prices relatively moderate, since they share financial interests in the oil-importing countries. This diversification also provides the Gulf states additional leverage to manipulate oil prices and production. The result is that the monarchies can manipulate the world oil markets while remaining relatively protected.
You obviously don't like the idea that is fine. If you want to argue it you should really have some grasp of the issue. Honestly ask yourself how much knowledge do you have about this?
I will make the same statement I have made to Jake the Snake to which he has not responded, because the reality is he has no idea what he is talking about. Tell us what you would advise the American public to do to help stop terrorism. Don't give advice for the military or the president because that is useless. Give the American people advice on what they can do to help the cause. Don't post it as a response, but post it on the board for all to see.
Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Ken, how old are you? Just curious.
Okay I had it with you nitwits. Nathan I appreciate the research you did, but it is not correct. I'm not sure where you got your information. Here is better source of information that is put out by the government Energy Information Administration
Your solution of going back to watching football games and staring at TV set frankly scares me. You are proposing what the media has been pushing down our throats.
That is tolerance and acceptance.
We are becoming a nation of brainwashed pupets who are lossing our will to fight. Where is the sense of outrage? Your idea that if we don't remain numb to this whole event we are playing in to the terrorist hands is absurd.
What will it take for you to react? If a nuclear bomb goes off in your city tommorow are you going to get and go to work so as to not let the terrorists win?
I would like to go through and argue with each of your points, but I've had it. It is becoming a huge waste of my time.
My feeling is quite a few of you are young and don't have a lot of experience in the world.
A lot of you couldn't even handle yourself in a street fight let alone know you to fight 11th century barbarians.
Hey Paul I'm sorry if you are offend by my shoot from the hip approach, but get over it! This is no time to pull punches. We have become a society of de-balled citizens who can hardly act in fear of offending someone.
How can a country who has to change the name of its War (operation infinite justice) for fear of offending some people combat an enmey that play by no rules whatsoever except to win?